In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at 15:04:13 on
Sat, 16 May 2009, John Rowland
remarked:
http://tinyurl.com/q8spkt

Very revealing. Four floors of retail, then ticket hall below that
and the platforms below that.

I was wondering why they needed such a long building if the trains
were below the surface. RETAIL!

Maybe they wouldn't be allowed to have platforms below water.

They are below water, just like the Jubilee line station.

Having built on every scrap of land they are now building on the
old docks - so inconsiderate for someone to have dug them in the
first place.

Why? It's not as if the docks are required for shipping any more.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 12:06:12
on Sat, 16 May 2009, remarked:
Having built on every scrap of land they are now building on the
old docks - so inconsiderate for someone to have dug them in the
first place.

Why? It's not as if the docks are required for shipping any more.

They are part of the landscape. If not, why didn't they just fill them
in when they started building the area - it would have been so much
simpler.
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Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 12:06:12 on
Sat, 16 May 2009, remarked:

Why? It's not as if the docks are required for shipping any more.

They are part of the landscape. If not, why didn't they just fill them in
when they started building the area - it would have been so much simpler.

Having scanned a few of the many press releases now, some of the excavated
material from this site is being used to backfill the dock outside the
piling, up to the minimum depth 'at the access routes' - which I take to
mean the top cill at the entrance locks. I assume this reduces the pressure
against the lower levels of the concrete walls?

Another point I've just spotted is there are other station names that are
supposedly provisional - they quote Liverpool St and Farringdon for
instance, as they link to Moorgate and Barbican respectively.

To save searching can anyone remember where the other ends of the Bond St
and Tottenham Court Rd stations are - IIRC they aren't near existing
stations though.

Paul S

On May 16, 8:47 pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Another point I've just spotted is there are other station names that are
supposedly provisional - they quote Liverpool St and Farringdon for
instance, as they link to Moorgate and Barbican respectively.

Looking at street names I think "Smithfield" might be a reasonable
name for the Farringdon/Barbican Crossrail station, if you didn't want
to name it one of those, or possibly Charterhouse. Given Liverpool
Street's prominence as a terminus, I can't imagine them going for
"Finsbury Circus"...

--
Abi

"Paul Scott" wrote..
To save searching can anyone remember where the other ends of the Bond St
and Tottenham Court Rd stations are - IIRC they aren't near existing
stations though.

Both extend widely to new entrances (eg TCR will new entrances at Hanocer
square and near Centre point), but neither will impinge on neighbouring
stations.

I'm pretty sure that L'pool St/Moorgate and Farringdon/Barbican are the only
ones where this is an issue.

Station naming is a big issue for the fire brigade - I recall a few years
ago a proposal to rename Monument as Bank, which has a certain logic, but
with some 12 entrances (I made that up - but there's plenty), the LFB
reckoned that getting to the right one in event of fire or terrorist
activity was going to be a tad difficult.
--

Andrew

In message , at 21:14:46 on
Sat, 16 May 2009, Paul Corfield remarked:
Hanover Square / Tenterden St behind Oxford St / Oxford Circus is the
eastern exit point for Bond St Station. IIRC there is no physical link
to Oxford Circus tube station. Only in London could we fail to provide
such a link.

Perhaps a "crowd control" feature. They want to spread the people out by
making them take a roundabout route.
--
Roland Perry

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...

Hanover Square / Tenterden St behind Oxford St / Oxford Circus is the
eastern exit point for Bond St Station. IIRC there is no physical link
to Oxford Circus tube station. Only in London could we fail to provide
such a link.

To provide such an interchange here would probably add so much to the cost
of the scheme that it would never happen. I limit my use of Oxford Circus to
the cross platform interchanges between the Victoria and Bakerloo lines, and
that's bad enough. The thought of adding a load of Crossrail passengers to
the scrum doesn't bear thinking about. It would make more sense to add an
interchange as part of a (much needed) rebuild of Oxford Circus station,
rather than trying to do it as part of Crossrail.

David A Stocks

In message , at 12:06:12
on Sat, 16 May 2009, remarked:
Having built on every scrap of land they are now building on the
old docks - so inconsiderate for someone to have dug them in the
first place.

Why? It's not as if the docks are required for shipping any more.

Having seen some more paperwork, it appears that the docks are also a
conservation area.
--
Roland Perry