Hi all,

More information. That's a hell of a train service they're proposing to
Gidea Park.

Thanks,
Jonn


----- Original Message -----
From: Iren Dibble-Szucs
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Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 4:53 PM
Subject: Crossrail enquiry


Dear John

Crossrail's priority is to get approval for the project.

During peak hours we plan to run 12 trains per hour, First Great Eastern
currently run around 14-15 on the Shenfield line. Our proposal is that up to
6 trains per hour would continue to operate a suburban-style service from
Gidea Park to Liverpool Street station.

Exact information on train operating company franchises and their services
is up to the Strategic Rail Authority. The earliest that details about
companies who could operate the service will be available would be once the
parliamentary stage is complete. Crossrail is working closely with the SRA
and franchisees to agree arrangements for the construction of the new
infrastructure and operation of the new services

I hope you will understand that I can't make any statements about the
services that other train operating companies are providing as they may be
completely different in 2013.

"Jonn Elledge" wrote in message
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----- Original Message -----
From: Iren Dibble-Szucs

Dear John

Crossrail's priority is to get approval for the project.

During peak hours we plan to run 12 trains per hour,
First Great Eastern currently run around 14-15
on the Shenfield line. Our proposal is that up to 6
trains per hour would continue to operate a suburban-
style service from Gidea Park to Liverpool Street station.

Thanks, Jonn.
I think this is a terrible idea. You'd have three different platform groups
at Liverpool Street for trains to Stratford. I can't see too many people
using these "up to 6tph" from Liverpool Street Overground in the evening,
when there are 12 tph downstairs... but then again, you'd be sure to get a
seat on them. Personally, I'd rather see the North London Line's 4tph
extended from Stratford to Gidea Park, or perhaps Upminster via Emerson
Park.

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Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was Jonn Elledge
), in message
who said:

Dear John

Crossrail's priority is to get approval for the project.

During peak hours we plan to run 12 trains per hour, First Great
Eastern currently run around 14-15 on the Shenfield line. Our
proposal is that up to 6 trains per hour would continue to operate a
suburban-style service from Gidea Park to Liverpool Street station.

Exact information on train operating company franchises and their
services is up to the Strategic Rail Authority. The earliest that
details about companies who could operate the service will be
available would be once the parliamentary stage is complete.
Crossrail is working closely with the SRA and franchisees to agree
arrangements for the construction of the new infrastructure and
operation of the new services

I hope you will understand that I can't make any statements about the
services that other train operating companies are providing as they
may be completely different in 2013.


Umm... so what exactly /is/ happening to Maryland Station?

Or was the header a curveball, like 'Trainspotting' or 'Brazil' or 'Song for
Guy'?

BTN

"John Rowland" wrote in message
...
Personally, I'd rather see the North London Line's 4tph
extended from Stratford to Gidea Park, or perhaps Upminster via Emerson
Park.

I'm not sure it'd be worth sending it that far out - think how many extra
trains it would need (although getting the Upminster line back onto the
network would be nice). I think it'd be worth extending it to Barking
though - that would ensure Maryland remained open, and provide services from
Barking (and thus in one connection the Dagenham/Rainham area) to Stratford
and Camden.

Best,
Jonn

"Jonn Elledge" wrote the following in:


"John Rowland" wrote in
message ...
Personally, I'd rather see the North London Line's 4tph
extended from Stratford to Gidea Park, or perhaps Upminster via
Emerson Park.

I'm not sure it'd be worth sending it that far out - think how
many extra trains it would need (although getting the Upminster
line back onto the network would be nice). I think it'd be worth
extending it to Barking though - that would ensure Maryland
remained open, and provide services from Barking (and thus in one
connection the Dagenham/Rainham area) to Stratford and Camden.

Would these ideas involve an end to the service down to North Woolwich?
What alternative services would people near Silvertown and North
Woolwich stations have?

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"Robin May" wrote in message
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Personally, I'd rather see the North London Line's 4tph
extended from Stratford to Gidea Park, or perhaps Upminster via
Emerson Park.

I'm not sure it'd be worth sending it that far out - think how
many extra trains it would need (although getting the Upminster
line back onto the network would be nice). I think it'd be worth
extending it to Barking though - that would ensure Maryland
remained open, and provide services from Barking (and thus in one
connection the Dagenham/Rainham area) to Stratford and Camden.

Would these ideas involve an end to the service down to North Woolwich?
What alternative services would people near Silvertown and North
Woolwich stations have?

I think the North Woolwich NLL service is already going to be stopped when
the DLR extension to London City Airport and Woolwich Arsenal is built.

Peter Smyth

In article , Jonn Elledge
writes
Personally, I'd rather see the North London Line's 4tph
extended from Stratford to Gidea Park, or perhaps Upminster via Emerson
Park.

I'm not sure it'd be worth sending it that far out - think how many extra
trains it would need (although getting the Upminster line back onto the
network would be nice).

You'd also need to cross over from the Slow Lines at or before Romford,
costing paths on the Fasts. I'm not even sure of the track layout at
Romford without looking it up, but I suspect changes would be needed
there as well.

There are rumours that the Emerson Park line will be connected to the
District at Upminster, not to allow a through service (laughter) but to
allow LU trains to be dragged to Ilford for major servicing.

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