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May 18th 09, 02:32 PM
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"'Euston Arch' stones to be saved"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8055034.stm
Excerpts... ---quote--- Stones believed to be part of a giant arch that used to stand at Euston railway station are being retrieved from an east London waterway. [...] The stones are being lifted from the Prescott Channel, where they were used to fill a hole in the riverbed. [...] British Waterways will lift the stones from the channel, near Bromley- by-Bow, on Monday to enable barges to use the lock to transport materials in and out of the Olympic Park for the 2012 Games. [...] the Euston Arch Trust [...] wants to rebuild the arch between two existing lodges on Euston Road. ---/quote--- |
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May 18th 09, 04:18 PM
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Mizter T wrote on 18 May 2009 14:32:16 ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8055034.stm Excerpts... ---quote--- Stones believed to be part of a giant arch that used to stand at Euston railway station are being retrieved from an east London waterway. [...] The stones are being lifted from the Prescott Channel, where they were used to fill a hole in the riverbed. [...] British Waterways will lift the stones from the channel, near Bromley- by-Bow, on Monday to enable barges to use the lock to transport materials in and out of the Olympic Park for the 2012 Games. [...] the Euston Arch Trust [...] wants to rebuild the arch between two existing lodges on Euston Road. ---/quote--- Why? It's not even a good example of a Greek-style arch (propylaeum if you insist). The pediment (top triangle) is OK, but the rest is a mish-mash. Pretentious and not very beautiful in my view. They should sell it to Houston, Texas. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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May 18th 09, 05:27 PM
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"'Euston Arch' stones to be saved"
"Richard J." wrote Why? It's not even a good example of a Greek-style arch (propylaeum if you insist). The pediment (top triangle) is OK, but the rest is a mish-mash. Pretentious and not very beautiful in my view. They should sell it to Houston, Texas. Why? Lake Havasu City, Nevada would be better, next to London Bridge. Peter |
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May 18th 09, 05:36 PM
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In message , at 17:27:24 on
Mon, 18 May 2009, Peter Masson remarked: They should sell it to Houston, Texas. Why? Lake Havasu City, Nevada would be better, next to London Bridge. "We have a sense of humour failure - HuuuEuston" "Beep". -- Roland Perry |
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May 18th 09, 05:45 PM
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Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 17:27:24 on Mon, 18 May 2009, Peter Masson remarked: They should sell it to Houston, Texas. Why? Lake Havasu City, Nevada would be better, next to London Bridge. "We have a sense of humour failure - HuuuEuston" "Beep". You could sell it to Dublin... -- Graeme Wall This address not read, substitute trains for rail Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail |
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May 18th 09, 06:30 PM
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"'Euston Arch' stones to be saved"
On May 18, 2:32*pm, Mizter T wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8055034.stm Excerpts... ---quote--- Stones believed to be part of a giant arch that used to stand at Euston railway station are being retrieved from an east London waterway. [...] The stones are being lifted from the Prescott Channel, where they were used to fill a hole in the riverbed. [...] British Waterways will lift the stones from the channel, near Bromley- by-Bow, on Monday to enable barges to use the lock to transport materials in and out of the Olympic Park for the 2012 Games. [...] the Euston Arch Trust [...] wants to rebuild the arch between two existing lodges on Euston Road. ---/quote--- Doric Arch Stones Recovered from Prescott Channel Historian Don Cruikshank was in the water as a crane lifted some stones out of the - appropriately named - Prescott Channel to deepen the water for Olympic barges. It is rumoured that about 200 stones are down there. The rebuildiong is said arch at Euston is still not decided. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8055034.stm http://www.eustonarch.org/ CJB. |
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May 18th 09, 06:41 PM
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In message , Richard J.
writes Mizter T wrote on 18 May 2009 14:32:16 ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8055034.stm Excerpts... ---quote--- Stones believed to be part of a giant arch that used to stand at Euston railway station are being retrieved from an east London waterway. [...] The stones are being lifted from the Prescott Channel, where they were used to fill a hole in the riverbed. [...] British Waterways will lift the stones from the channel, near Bromley- by-Bow, on Monday to enable barges to use the lock to transport materials in and out of the Olympic Park for the 2012 Games. [...] the Euston Arch Trust [...] wants to rebuild the arch between two existing lodges on Euston Road. ---/quote--- Why? It's not even a good example of a Greek-style arch ( Actually, I liked it very much (from pictures.......can't remember it in place). That said, I would think long and hard about a "rebuild", especially given the dramatic changes in layout at Euston since then. It could go somewhere else, I suppose. After all, Temple Bar was brought "back" to a completely different location but looks (and functions) very well there. Now where might the Arch (sorry, "Propylaeum") go? The pediment (top triangle) is OK, but the rest is a mish-mash. Pretentious and not very beautiful in my view. Oh well, we all differ. -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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May 18th 09, 07:37 PM
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On May 18, 6:41*pm, Ian Jelf wrote:
In message , Richard J. writes That said, I would think long and hard about a "rebuild", especially given the dramatic changes in layout at Euston since then. * It could go somewhere else, I suppose. * After all, Temple Bar was brought "back" to a completely different location but looks (and functions) very well there. Now where might the Arch (sorry, "Propylaeum") go? It has never been suggested it should be rebuilt in its original location. That would mean placing it roughly where the gateline is for the London Midland/London Overground platforms. Instead it is proposed to re-site it between the existing lodges on Euston Road, something that should have been done in 1962 IMHO. *The pediment (top triangle) is OK, but the rest is a mish-mash. Pretentious and not very beautiful in my view. Oh well, we all differ. Indeed, and it is the the importance of the arch in *railway* architecture rather than architecture in general that merits its restoration. RPM |
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May 18th 09, 09:15 PM
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RPM wrote on 18 May 2009 19:37:11 ...
On May 18, 6:41 pm, Ian Jelf wrote: In message , Richard J. writes That said, I would think long and hard about a "rebuild", especially given the dramatic changes in layout at Euston since then. It could go somewhere else, I suppose. After all, Temple Bar was brought "back" to a completely different location but looks (and functions) very well there. Now where might the Arch (sorry, "Propylaeum") go? It has never been suggested it should be rebuilt in its original location. That would mean placing it roughly where the gateline is for the London Midland/London Overground platforms. Instead it is proposed to re-site it between the existing lodges on Euston Road, something that should have been done in 1962 IMHO. The pediment (top triangle) is OK, but the rest is a mish-mash. Pretentious and not very beautiful in my view. Oh well, we all differ. Indeed, and it is the the importance of the arch in *railway* architecture rather than architecture in general that merits its restoration. What importance? As far as I can see it had no effect at all on subsequent railway architecture, where more effort and expense was put into the station itself (such as at King's Cross and Paddington) than on some great marketing promotion outside. At Euston, the arch was there from the start in 1837, but it took another 20 years or more before more than one arrival platform was provided. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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May 18th 09, 09:31 PM
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"'Euston Arch' stones to be saved"
On May 18, 6:30*pm, CJB wrote: On May 18, 2:32*pm, Mizter T wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8055034.stm Excerpts... ---quote--- Stones believed to be part of a giant arch that used to stand at Euston railway station are being retrieved from an east London waterway. [...] The stones are being lifted from the Prescott Channel, where they were used to fill a hole in the riverbed. [...] British Waterways will lift the stones from the channel, near Bromley- by-Bow, on Monday to enable barges to use the lock to transport materials in and out of the Olympic Park for the 2012 Games. [...] the Euston Arch Trust [...] wants to rebuild the arch between two existing lodges on Euston Road. ---/quote--- Doric Arch Stones Recovered from Prescott Channel Historian Don Cruikshank was in the water as a crane lifted some stones out of the - appropriately named - Prescott Channel to deepen the water for Olympic barges. Why "appropriately named"? |
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