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John B wrote:
On Jul 17, 8:52 pm, Bruce wrote:
There is a huge variation around the country in the local authorities'
requirements for minicabs. I have a friend who use to run a minicab
business in Aylesbury, but now runs a similar business in Middlesex.


Time traveller, is he?

(for m.t.u-t'ers, Middlesex hasn't existed for 44 years)

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Right. Yet people still give it as a postal address, even though you
are not supposed to give either district or county. Another favourite
is Kingston, Surrey. Oh no it isn't.
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On Jul 19, 7:43*am, Martin Edwards wrote:

John B wrote:
On Jul 17, 8:52 pm, Bruce wrote:
There is a huge variation around the country in the local authorities'
requirements for minicabs. *I have a friend who use to run a minicab
business in Aylesbury, but now runs a similar business in Middlesex.


Time traveller, is he?


(for m.t.u-t'ers, Middlesex hasn't existed for 44 years)


Right. *Yet people still give it as a postal address, even though you
are not supposed to give either district or county. *Another favourite
is Kingston, Surrey. *Oh no it isn't.


Oh yes it can be.

As I said above, please show me where including former postal counties
is specifically prohibited by Royal Mail - any reference or cite from
an official document would do.

You won't be able to, because Royal Mail do not prohibit its usage,
nor indeed do they officially discourage it either.

The Royal Mail is happy for information that is "postally not
required" to appear as part of an address, just so long as the
required information is there as well.
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On Jul 19, 11:07*am, Mizter T wrote:
On Jul 19, 7:43*am, Martin Edwards wrote:

John B wrote:
On Jul 17, 8:52 pm, Bruce wrote:
There is a huge variation around the country in the local authorities'
requirements for minicabs. *I have a friend who use to run a minicab
business in Aylesbury, but now runs a similar business in Middlesex.


Time traveller, is he?


(for m.t.u-t'ers, Middlesex hasn't existed for 44 years)


Right. *Yet people still give it as a postal address, even though you
are not supposed to give either district or county. *Another favourite
is Kingston, Surrey. *Oh no it isn't.


Oh yes it can be.

As I said above, please show me where including former postal counties
is specifically prohibited by Royal Mail - any reference or cite from
an official document would do.

You won't be able to, because Royal Mail do not prohibit its usage,
nor indeed do they officially discourage it either.

The Royal Mail is happy for information that is "postally not
required" to appear as part of an address, just so long as the
required information is there as well.


That's fairly ridiculous hair-splitting.

You're not *banned* from writing on an envelope "I love John
Prescott", or even "Postmen are lazy".

But you're not *supposed* to write them on an envelope as if they were
part of the address.

[as a side note, I utterly hate American-designed websites which
insist on you putting a county in the address field... especially the
ones that force you to pick from a list a county that doesn't
exist...]

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03:37:24 on Sun, 19 Jul 2009, John B remarked:
I utterly hate American-designed websites which
insist on you putting a county in the address field...


The one I encountered this morning is very likely to be UK-designed
website. We have ignorant developers here too
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message
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03:37:24 on Sun, 19 Jul 2009, John B remarked:
I utterly hate American-designed websites which
insist on you putting a county in the address field...


The one I encountered this morning is very likely to be UK-designed
website. We have ignorant developers here too
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I've never enountered a US site demanding "County". City, State (from
drop-down list) and ZIP is the usual form.

DW down under



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On Jul 19, 11:37*am, John B wrote:

On Jul 19, 11:07*am, Mizter T wrote:

On Jul 19, 7:43*am, Martin Edwards wrote:


John B wrote:
On Jul 17, 8:52 pm, Bruce wrote:
There is a huge variation around the country in the local authorities'
requirements for minicabs. *I have a friend who use to run a minicab
business in Aylesbury, but now runs a similar business in Middlesex.

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In uk.transport.london message ebf97407-1b18-47b0-8820-1c4ef6dc7169@c1g
2000yqi.googlegroups.com, Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:37:24, John B
posted:

[as a side note, I utterly hate American-designed websites which
insist on you putting a county in the address field... especially the
ones that force you to pick from a list a county that doesn't
exist...]


Go via http://spaceweather.com/flybys/index.php, look via "London,
City of" and you will find Cockfosters and the Finchley/Barnet area, as
well as London.

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In uk.transport.london message ebf97407-1b18-47b0-8820-1c4ef6dc7169@c1g
2000yqi.googlegroups.com, Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:37:24, John B
posted:

[as a side note, I utterly hate American-designed websites which
insist on you putting a county in the address field... especially the
ones that force you to pick from a list a county that doesn't
exist...]


snip


Why do you think it is American since county is not a part of United
States (or Canadian) addresses?
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In message , at 21:23:05 on
Sun, 19 Jul 2009, Clark F Morris remarked:
[as a side note, I utterly hate American-designed websites which
insist on you putting a county in the address field... especially the
ones that force you to pick from a list a county that doesn't
exist...]


snip


Why do you think it is American since county is not a part of United
States (or Canadian) addresses?


You can usually tell if a supplier is "American" or is using a
fundamentally "American" ecommerce platform.

It's true that the County isn't part of the address in the USA, but what
happens is that Americans "buy in" the 'expertise' regarding the format
of addresses in other countries. So once you've told it you are in the
UK it switches the fields to what if fondly believes a UK address should
look like.
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Martin Edwards wrote in news:kgz8m.17902$m%4.11960
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Right. Yet people still give it as a postal address, even though you
are not supposed to give either district or county. Another favourite
is Kingston, Surrey. Oh no it isn't.


You seem to be under the misapprehension that a place can be located in
only one county.


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