On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:12:23 +0000, Tom Sutch wrote:
Be confident, know that you are right, and if that doesn't work just put it
in a bag before entering the network. It's then just luggage and there are
no rules (save common sense) about that.

What would they do with a person with a real bike? Aside from stopping at
the gates (Most LU staff I've seen are too busy gossiping to notice),
what would they do?

As for luggage. Take a real bike, wrap a sheet round it and call it a
suitcase, what's the difference?

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On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:12:23 +0000, Tom Sutch wrote:
Be confident, know that you are right, and if that doesn't work just put
it
in a bag before entering the network. It's then just luggage and there
are
no rules (save common sense) about that.

What would they do with a person with a real bike? Aside from stopping at
the gates (Most LU staff I've seen are too busy gossiping to notice),
what would they do?

The Train Operator would be well within his/her rights (outside the
specified times and on wrong sections of the line) to ask you to leave the
train.


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The Train Operator would be well within his/her rights (outside the
specified times and on wrong sections of the line) to ask you to leave the
train.

And frequently do - In fact I did today :-)

I never do with a Brompton though as they are specifically allowed.
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In message , Kat
writes

The Train Operator would be well within his/her rights (outside the
specified times and on wrong sections of the line) to ask you to leave
the
train.

And frequently do - In fact I did today :-)

I never do with a Brompton though as they are specifically allowed.

I once allowed someone down onto the platform with an unfolded Brompton
because he assured me he could fold it before an incoming train had opened
its doors; and he could too!
They are quite amazing bikes but pretty pricey I think...


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Kat in Downtown Toronto

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In message , Kat
writes

The Train Operator would be well within his/her rights (outside the
specified times and on wrong sections of the line) to ask you to leave
the
train.

And frequently do - In fact I did today :-)

I never do with a Brompton though as they are specifically allowed.

I once allowed someone down onto the platform with an unfolded Brompton
because he assured me he could fold it before an incoming train had opened
its doors; and he could too!
They are quite amazing bikes but pretty pricey I think...


Yebbut worth it. Resale value is high too. I had one (gave it to my
nephew when my MS stopped me riding) and have recommended them to
another poster on this thread...

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"Kat" typed



"Steve Fitzgerald" ] wrote in message
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In message , Kat
writes

The Train Operator would be well within his/her rights (outside the
specified times and on wrong sections of the line) to ask you to leave
the
train.

And frequently do - In fact I did today :-)

I never do with a Brompton though as they are specifically allowed.

I once allowed someone down onto the platform with an unfolded Brompton
because he assured me he could fold it before an incoming train had opened
its doors; and he could too!
They are quite amazing bikes but pretty pricey I think...


Yebbut worth it.
I'll second that. It's better than some types of "proper" [1] bike.


[1] Not my words!
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:04:50 -0700, "Kat"
wrote:

I once allowed someone down onto the platform with an unfolded Brompton
because he assured me he could fold it before an incoming train had opened
its doors; and he could too!

Once I was at Kings Cross Thameslink with my Brompton unfolded, and I
kept it like that to the Victoria Line platforms (since the wheels on
the carrier are akin to useless). Since the train was coming in I got
on like that, and had it folded by the time I got off at Highbury and
Islington (WAGN also require it to be folded at this point). I noticed
the train operator looking back to check on me!

They are quite amazing bikes but pretty pricey I think...

True, but worth every penny -- and forever getting favourable
comments. Very quick to fold and unfold, with a little practice.

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On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:12:23 +0000, Tom Sutch wrote:
Be confident, know that you are right, and if that doesn't work just put it
in a bag before entering the network. It's then just luggage and there are
no rules (save common sense) about that.
As a Brompton in its cover isn't obviously a bike at all; it just looks
like a large "something". I've never actually taken mine on a tube
train (though I've always *meant* to) but I'd certainly cover it, if
only to avoid getting such stick from passengers (and staff,
apparently!).

(That said, I did once get asked to leave a Midland Metro tram with mine
but they relented when I started quoting the rules to them *and*
produced a paper copy of an e-mail from customer services confirming
that folding bikes were permitted. It was quite funny, actually!)

What would they do with a person with a real bike? Aside from stopping at
the gates (Most LU staff I've seen are too busy gossiping to notice),
what would they do?

As for luggage. Take a real bike, wrap a sheet round it and call it a
suitcase, what's the difference?

Ahem! Are you implying by any chance that a Brompton is not a "real"
bike?! ;-)
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London & the Heart of England
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