On Sep 1, 11:30*pm, Mizter T wrote:

They all charge a fare of 0p (i.e. zero pence) on Oyster PAYG. No
fancy pseudo-Tube fare charging arrangements apply.

For New Cross to Surrey Quays/ Canada Water the bus fare (on the 225)
of £1 is cheaper than the £1.10 fare that one would have been charged
on the LU EWLL line

....or indeed the LU ELL (without the superfluous "line" chucked in
there as well!).

On Sep 1, 7:45*pm, Paul Corfield wrote:

It is also worth noting that future tube maps will no longer show the
ELL replacement services and also that in car publicity maps are not
going to be updated due to lack of cash and therefore will still show
them! Sounds wonderful doesn't it!?

I'm not sure I follow that logic - Overground services appear on the
tube map, but Overground replacement bus services don't?

On 4 Sep, 14:52, teflon wrote:
On Sep 1, 7:45*pm, Paul Corfield wrote:

It is also worth noting that future tube maps will no longer show the
ELL replacement services and also that in car publicity maps are not
going to be updated due to lack of cash and therefore will still show
them! Sounds wonderful doesn't it!?

I'm not sure I follow that logic - Overground services appear on the
tube map, but Overground replacement bus services don't?

Not if they are withdrawn.

The first ELL Stock arrived last week at NXG Depot.

Regards


Leo

On 7 Sep, 19:06, Leo wrote:
The first ELL Stock arrived last week at NXG Depot.

Regards

Leo

For those that want to know the first one was 378 001. I saw a
picture.

Regards


Leo

On Sep 7, 7:55*pm, Leo wrote:
The first ELL Stock arrived last week at NXG Depot.


For those that want to know the first one was 378 001. I saw a
picture.

378001 is a dual-voltage 3-car 378/0 for the NLL/WLL, surely?

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

"John B" wrote in message
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On Sep 7, 7:55 pm, Leo wrote:
The first ELL Stock arrived last week at NXG Depot.


For those that want to know the first one was 378 001. I saw a
picture.

378001 is a dual-voltage 3-car 378/0 for the NLL/WLL, surely?

Yes, but it is a reasonable choice as test unit for the depot, firstly
because it is already fully run in, being the first NLL unit delivered all
those months ago. It has apparently just been back to Derby to have the
interior finished off (although it would be no surprise if any post
production mods have gone in). Secondly, AIUI the NXG depot becomes the
main depot for both fleets, with Willesden for stabling and light
maintenance - so NXG will presumably have an AC electrified test track
somewhere, like there is at Selhurst for 377/2s etc, and that might also
need a functional test?

Paul

On Sep 8, 12:09*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
The first ELL Stock arrived last week at NXG Depot.

For those that want to know the first one was 378 001. I saw a
picture.
378001 is a dual-voltage 3-car 378/0 for the NLL/WLL, surely?

Yes, but it is a reasonable choice as test unit for the depot, firstly
because it is already fully run in, being the first NLL unit delivered all
those months ago. It has apparently just been back to Derby to have the
interior finished off (although it would be no surprise if any post
production mods have gone in). *Secondly, AIUI the NXG depot becomes the
main depot for both fleets, with Willesden for stabling and light
maintenance - so NXG will presumably have an AC electrified test track
somewhere, like there is at Selhurst for 377/2s etc, and that might also
need a functional test?

Yup, there is an AC electric test rig at NXG (I saw it on my tour
earlier this year), and that all makes sense.

I was confused as the OP suggested that the "first ELL stock arrived
last week" so I assumed s/he meant Bombardier had turned out a 378/1.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

On 8 Sep, 16:15, John B wrote:
I was confused as the OP suggested that the "first ELL stock arrived
last week" so I assumed s/he meant Bombardier had turned out a 378/1.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot orgwww.johnband.org

I was talking to a friend of mine at the weekend who works on the line
and apparently they were having the usual anatomy waggling deadline
issues where they had to have the track ready for the first stock even
though the first stock was not ready etc etc. To meet agreed
deadlines they had to be ready to receive the first stock hence
preparing a single road for delivery. Bombardier also had to deliver
said stock however as you rightly note it looks like they took the
easier option of providing one from the fleet over at Willesden.

BTW I is a he, well was the last time I checked.

Regards


Leo

In article ,
Paul Corfield wrote:

Interesting - that matches the stated programme in the latest ELL
newsletter (as provided by eastender - see other post on utl)

The Newsletter says that test running (of systems as well as trains and
stations) starts this Autumn.

Yes, I saw that. Today I noticed they seem to be putting back the wall
at the Richmond Road works entrance - it has all the hallmarks of a
project running to schedule... probably.

E.