What happens to them? I mean, what happened to the one involved in the
Chancery Lane derailment? Is it back in use? And what about the
derailed Piccadilly and Northern trains, what's going to happen to
them?

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Robin May wrote in message ...
What happens to them? I mean, what happened to the one involved in the
Chancery Lane derailment?

The undamaged part of the train is back in service, however the rear four cars have been sent to Adtranz Crewe for repair.


Is it back in use? And what about the
derailed Piccadilly and Northern trains, what's going to happen to
them?


Dunno, presume the Picc one probably wasn't that badly damaged, and will simply be out of service for a few weeks or months. As for the 95ts, cars involved in similar derailments (e.g. Piccadilly Circus) have been scrapped, though with the superior crashworthiness of the 95ts, it's quite likely that the car(s) concerned will be repaired, probably by an external contractor.

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Robin May wrote in message ...
What happens to them? I mean, what happened to the one involved in
the Chancery Lane derailment?

The undamaged part of the train is back in service, however the rear
four cars have been sent to Adtranz Crewe for repair.


Is it back in use? And what about the
derailed Piccadilly and Northern trains, what's going to happen to
them?


Dunno, presume the Picc one probably wasn't that badly damaged, and
will simply be out of service for a few weeks or months. As for the
95ts, cars involved in similar derailments (e.g. Piccadilly Circus)
have been scrapped, though with the superior crashworthiness of the
95ts, it's quite likely that the car(s) concerned will be repaired,
probably by an external contractor.


If they haven't been completely robbed by then!

Roger

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If they haven't been completely robbed by then!


That doesn't stop them repairing the immediate damage, and then deciding that it's too expensive to re-fit all the missing equipment, and scrapping the cars anyway.

It's happened before!

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If they haven't been completely robbed by then!


That doesn't stop them repairing the immediate damage, and then
deciding that it's too expensive to re-fit all the missing equipment,
and scrapping the cars anyway.

It's happened before!


Be interesting to see how they patch up the body - originally they came
from Spain, so it's not likely they'd have a spare shell hanging around.

Roger

"3518+3227" wrote in message ...
cars involved in similar derailments (e.g. Piccadilly Circus) have been
scrapped, though with the superior crashworthiness of the 95ts, it's
quite likely that the car(s) concerned will be repaired, probably by an
external contractor.

Superior crashworthiness?? Christ , I'd hate to see what would have happened
to the old stock in a similar situation. I've seen pictures of less damaged
road vehicles in higher speed crashes than that and railway vehicles are
supposed to be stronger! If a car or bus hit a tree at 15mph you wouldn't
expect the whole front to disintegrate but thats exactly what happened to this
northern line carriage!

B2003

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"3518+3227" wrote in message
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cars involved in similar derailments (e.g. Piccadilly Circus)
have been scrapped, though with the superior crashworthiness of
the 95ts, it's quite likely that the car(s) concerned will be
repaired, probably by an external contractor.

Superior crashworthiness?? Christ , I'd hate to see what would
have happened to the old stock in a similar situation. I've seen
pictures of less damaged road vehicles in higher speed crashes
than that and railway vehicles are supposed to be stronger! If a
car or bus hit a tree at 15mph you wouldn't expect the whole front
to disintegrate but thats exactly what happened to this northern
line carriage!

Are you stupid? A train is several times longer than a car or bus and
even more times heavier.

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Robin May wrote in message ...
Are you stupid? A train is several times longer than a car or bus and
even more times heavier.

No **** sherlock. And consequently they should be built a damn site stronger
than road vehicles. Obviously this is not the case, at least not for tube
trains. If any vehicle crumples up at such a low speed it doesn't say a lot
thats good about the design. Perhaps they should have used the same team
who designed the mainline mk3, probably one of the safest vehicles on wheels.

B2003

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Boltar wrote:
Obviously this is not the case, at least not for tube trains.
If any vehicle crumples up at such a low speed it doesn't say
a lot thats good about the design.

This is not my specialist subject, but surely it is the case
that the crumpling up makes them safer. Wasn't it the case that
a number of rail crashes a while back were made much worse
because the carriages were built off incompressible underframes
and so rode up violently in a collision?

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"Boltar" wrote in message
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Robin May wrote in message
...
Are you stupid? A train is several times longer than a car or bus and
even more times heavier.

No **** sherlock. And consequently they should be built a damn site
stronger
than road vehicles. Obviously this is not the case, at least not for tube
trains. If any vehicle crumples up at such a low speed it doesn't say a
lot
thats good about the design. Perhaps they should have used the same team
who designed the mainline mk3, probably one of the safest vehicles on
wheels.

It's entirely sensible for trains to crumple on impact, to absorb some of
the force of the collision.