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And, I actually heard a pretty female colleague
once saying "I've always got sex at the Bailey..."

Are you sure it wasn't "I've always got sex after Bailey's..."

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Willesden Junction station is in Zone 3 actually, though I agree the
crossing is within Zone 2, and it's nearly a mile nearer to Charing Cross
than the ones at Barnes.
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Sorry, I have mis-read my pocket Underground map: I thought Willesden
Junction
was on the border of Zones 2 and 3 but, on closer inspection, I see
that it is
just inside the Zone 3 area! I confess here and now that I have more
than once
travelled from Clapham to Willesden on a Zone 1 & 2 Travelcard, albeit
without
leaving the station!

I think Willesden Junction was 'reclassified' as Zone 3 a few years ago
to local protest.

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"IanB" k wrote in message ...
A recent thread on a related newsgroup talked about the
Croxley Green branch which has been "cut" by what is
commonly referred to as the "Watford bypass" but which I
believe is just an access road to an industrial estate If
so then a level crossing should easily cope with the rail
and road traffic. The thread went on to mention the

I can just imagine the nannies in the HSE having to reach for the
smelling salts if someone proposed a new level crossing on a
commuter line! It won't happen. I suspect if the met is extended onto
this branch the road will be put into an underpass.

B2003

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 04:57:56 GMT, Helen Deborah Vecht
wrote:

I think Willesden Junction was 'reclassified' as Zone 3 a few years ago
to local protest.

I was impressed by the fact that you could travel all the way from
Kensal Rise to Hackney Wick in Zone 2 -- if it wasn't for Hampstead
Heath poking into Zone 3.

Regards,

Clive

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 04:57:56 GMT, Helen Deborah Vecht
wrote:

I think Willesden Junction was 'reclassified' as Zone 3 a few years ago
to local protest.

I was impressed by the fact that you could travel all the way from
Kensal Rise to Hackney Wick in Zone 2 -- if it wasn't for Hampstead
Heath poking into Zone 3.

This is a fiction, designed to prevent the North London Line being all
one zone. Hampstead Heath Station is in Zone 2 on the buses, isn't it?
The zone 2/3 border is at Hampstead LUL station and HH is nearer to the
centre than that.

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"Boltar" wrote in message
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I can just imagine the nannies in the HSE having to reach for the
smelling salts if someone proposed a new level crossing on a
commuter line! It won't happen. I suspect if the met is extended onto
this branch the road will be put into an underpass.

B2003

Will that be the same HSE that allows level crossings all over the Tyne Wear
Metro then?

Paul Scott

"Boltar" wrote in message
om...

I suspect if the met is extended onto this
branch the road will be put into an underpass.

The ex-railway is on an embankment at Ascot Road, and Ascot Road is (AFAIK)
low enough that it won't have to be lowered. The road was built at a time
when the Croxley Link was already on the cards.

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:16:45 GMT, Helen Deborah Vecht
wrote:

Clive R Robertson typed


On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 04:57:56 GMT, Helen Deborah Vecht
wrote:

I think Willesden Junction was 'reclassified' as Zone 3 a few years ago
to local protest.

I was impressed by the fact that you could travel all the way from
Kensal Rise to Hackney Wick in Zone 2 -- if it wasn't for Hampstead
Heath poking into Zone 3.

This is a fiction, designed to prevent the North London Line being all
one zone. Hampstead Heath Station is in Zone 2 on the buses, isn't it?
The zone 2/3 border is at Hampstead LUL station and HH is nearer to the
centre than that.

I refer the honourable lady to
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/pdfdocs/lon_con.pdf (or .../lon_con.jpg).
Note how the border dips to get Hampstead Heath into Zone 3.

The bus zone boundary does indeed put HH into Zone 2, but bus zones
are different from LU / NR zones. (The bus zones map for northwest
London is at http://www.tfl.gov.uk/buses/pdfdocs/n_west.pdf --
Caution: this is almost 5MB.)

I don't know what you mean by "fiction" or, for that matter, "all". A
fair chunk of the NLL is in Zone 3 -- everything east of Hackney Wick
(i.e., from Stratford to North Woolwich, Hampstead Heath and the
aforementioned Willesden Junction, and South Acton to Kew Gardens.
Acton Central is in 2, Kew Gardens is 3/4, and Richmond is in 4.

Regards,

Clive

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"Paul Scott" wrote in message ...
"Boltar" wrote in message
om...

I can just imagine the nannies in the HSE having to reach for the
smelling salts if someone proposed a new level crossing on a
commuter line! It won't happen. I suspect if the met is extended onto
this branch the road will be put into an underpass.

B2003

Will that be the same HSE that allows level crossings all over the Tyne Wear
Metro then?

Those have I suspect been there since the line was originally built back
in the days when the HSE had some common sense. However I stand to be
corrected and told that they're on the new extension to the airport.
Also don't forget that the metro is overhead catenary , the tube is 4th
rail.

B2003

"Boltar" wrote in message
om...

Those have I suspect been there since the line was originally built back
in the days when the HSE had some common sense. However I stand to be
corrected and told that they're on the new extension to the airport.
Also don't forget that the metro is overhead catenary , the tube is 4th
rail.

B2003

Yes it is mostly the airport extension, and all the stations seem to be
split with the platforms on either side of the level crossing. I stand to be
corrected but don't think there are any LC that are not at stations, and
therefore the train is always stationary with the driver able to sight the
LC before he sets off again. Of course the metro to the airport mainly runs
on an old BR line, which predates the urban sprawl. I doubt there were so
many LC then. A lot of the crossing points are over residential distributor
type roads.

Surely on LU the 4th rail would be dealt with in the same way as 3rd rail on
SR lines, it would just need a break (cable connected) in the conductor at a
LC?

Paul