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In message , Angus Bryant
writes South-east Kent would still have been the easiest place for the Romans to access the UK, and so a bypass round London to reach the main artery to the milands and the north-west (Watling St A5) would seem to make sense. Except that the only bridge was London Bridge. Crossing at Westminster meant either getting very wet or loading everything onto a ferry. Having said that, I think there is some evidence that the Westminster route would have been used before the building of London Bridge, but the latter is believed to have been built within 7 years of the Romans' arrival, so it wouldn't have had a lot of use. Also it's a bit of a coincidence that *both* the A2 and A5 are called Watling Street - the logical explanation is that they are the same road. Neither was named Watling Street until more than 800 years after either had been built - it is an Anglo-Saxon name. Almost the only contemporary source of information on Roman roads in Britain is Antonine's Itinery, written some time after the network had been finished. Most of the route from Wroxeter to Dover is described as Iter II, suggesting that by then both parts of what is now Watling Street were considered to be part of a continuous route (via what is now the city of London). However, I don't think it was built as such. When the Romans arrived they headed first for London. Roads to other places doubtless followed after various local tribes were subdued. -- Paul Terry |
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"Paul Terry" wrote in message
... Except that the only bridge was London Bridge. I thought the first bridge in London was at Vauxhall? When the Romans arrived they headed first for London. I doubt that, since they founded London. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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In message , John Rowland
writes "Paul Terry" wrote in message ... Except that the only bridge was London Bridge. I thought the first bridge in London was at Vauxhall? You've been watching the Time Team ![]() As I recall, the remains they found were more likely to have been a quay or platform rather than an actual Thames crossing. When the Romans arrived they headed first for London. I doubt that, since they founded London. They headed for what is now London because that was the first viable crossing point of the Thames. Whether it was actually at Brentford, Westminster (or even Vauxhall) nobody knows. For anyone interested, there are some hypothesised aerial views of London in Roman times at the Museum of London website: http://tinyurl.com/tbiu If accurate, they give a good idea of how difficult it would have been to cross the marshy terrain immediately south of the river. -- Paul Terry |
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![]() "Paul Terry" wrote in message ... They headed for what is now London because that was the first viable crossing point of the Thames. Whether it was actually at Brentford, Westminster (or even Vauxhall) nobody knows. The first bridge was at Staines. |
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On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:59:48 -0000, "Bondee"
wrote: The first bridge was at Staines. There was a crossing point at Brentford (a ford) |
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On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:59:48 -0000, "Bondee" wrote: The first bridge was at Staines. There was a crossing point at Brentford (a ford) The Brent *and* the Thames? -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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![]() "Helen Deborah Vecht" wrote in message ... K typed On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:59:48 -0000, "Bondee" wrote: The first bridge was at Staines. There was a crossing point at Brentford (a ford) The Brent *and* the Thames? Ah! My apologies. I don't know why I related "crossing" to "bridge". Not thinking straight. |
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:46:10 GMT, Helen Deborah Vecht
wrote: There was a crossing point at Brentford (a ford) The Brent *and* the Thames? Just the Thames, I think. I'm sure there is a plaque about it in Brentford. |
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In article , Paul Terry
writes When the Romans arrived they headed first for London. Actually, they headed first for Brentwood, where they fought and defeated the locals. -- Clive D.W. Feather, writing for himself | Home: Tel: +44 20 8371 1138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Written on my laptop; please observe the Reply-To address |
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In article , Clive D. W. Feather
writes In article , Paul Terry |||news_04 writes When the Romans arrived they headed first for London. Actually, they headed first for Brentwood, Who wouldn't? ;-) -- Ian Jelf, MITG, Birmingham, UK Registered "Blue Badge" Tourist Guide for London & the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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