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"Geoff Marshall" wrote in message ...
According to the PDF on the TFL website (which just says "2003" and is no
more specific than that), trains will run as:

.. from Acton Town - Hatton Cross - T4 - T5 and in reverse. and:
.. from Acton Town - Hatton Cross - T123 - T5 and in reverse.

So the 'loop' between T4 and T123 becomes redundant? And that if you want
to go via tube between 123 and 4, you'llnow have to go via Hatton Cross
instead!

Is there a map somewhere showing the new track layout? I've tried googling
for it and found loads of info but no map.

B2003

Are they going to double the line from HX to T4 then?

I would have thought HX - T4 - T5 - reverse to T123 would be better.

CJC wrote:
(Boltar) wrote in message
om...
"Geoff Marshall" wrote in message
...
According to the PDF on the TFL website (which just says "2003" and
is no
more specific than that), trains will run as:

.. from Acton Town - Hatton Cross - T4 - T5 and in reverse. and:
.. from Acton Town - Hatton Cross - T123 - T5 and in reverse.

So the 'loop' between T4 and T123 becomes redundant? And that if
you want
to go via tube between 123 and 4, you'llnow have to go via Hatton
Cross
instead!

Is there a map somewhere showing the new track layout? I've tried
googling
for it and found loads of info but no map.

B2003

Are they going to double the line from HX to T4 then?

No. As has been pointed out in this thread at least twice already, the
services will actually be
..- Hatton Cross - T123 - T5 and in reverse, and
..- Hatton Cross - T4 - T123 - HX as at present.

I would have thought HX - T4 - T5 - reverse to T123 would be
better.

Not a good idea to reverse a train on the way to T123, nor to fill it with
T5 arrivals before the T123 departures have got off. (Yes, I know this
happens at T4 at present, but T5 will be *much* bigger than T4.)

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Richard J.
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In message , Richard J.
writes

No. As has been pointed out in this thread at least twice already, the
services will actually be
..- Hatton Cross - T123 - T5 and in reverse, and
..- Hatton Cross - T4 - T123 - HX as at present.

And we've been told that roughly 1/3 trains T4123 and 2/3 123T5

The station at T5 will have 3 platforms and cripple sidings.
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In message , Steve Fitzgerald
] writes
..- Hatton Cross - T123 - T5 and in reverse, and
..- Hatton Cross - T4 - T123 - HX as at present.

And we've been told that roughly 1/3 trains T4123 and 2/3 123T5

Getting from T5 to T4 seems like the difficult part.
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Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , Steve Fitzgerald
] writes
..- Hatton Cross - T123 - T5 and in reverse, and
..- Hatton Cross - T4 - T123 - HX as at present.

And we've been told that roughly 1/3 trains T4123 and 2/3 123T5

Getting from T5 to T4 seems like the difficult part.

But there may not be much demand for that journey, depending on the future
use of T4. According to reports this week*, British Airways will use T5
for all of their flights, and T4 will be occupied by the Skyteam alliance,
which consists of Air France, KLM, Delta and Northwest Airlines.

* http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/tra...p?story=461304
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Richard J.
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In message , Roland Perry
writes
In message , Steve Fitzgerald
] writes
..- Hatton Cross - T123 - T5 and in reverse, and
..- Hatton Cross - T4 - T123 - HX as at present.

And we've been told that roughly 1/3 trains T4123 and 2/3 123T5

Getting from T5 to T4 seems like the difficult part.

We wont be doing it - either T4 or T5 not both.

My error, BTW, should have read T4123 above (as today)
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In message , Roland Perry
writes
In message , Steve Fitzgerald
] writes
..- Hatton Cross - T123 - T5 and in reverse, and
..- Hatton Cross - T4 - T123 - HX as at present.

And we've been told that roughly 1/3 trains T4123 and 2/3 123T5

Getting from T5 to T4 seems like the difficult part.

We wont be doing it - either T4 or T5 not both.

My error, BTW, should have read T4123 above (as today)

I just think having two different services will confuse stupid
tourists!

What are LU thinking of with HX? No lifts there are there? I would
have thought telling people to change to the Heathrow Express at T123
would be better.