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gwr4090 wrote:
The SRA has announced this morning that First Group has been selected as the preferred bidder to run the Thames Trains franchise from 1 April 2004 to 31 March 2006. No details yet of what impact this will have on train services to be provided. There are still two options under consideration. SRA announcement: http://195.157.46.131/news/20031104_...ra nchise.tt2 First Group press release: http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/n...e.php?item=159 Interestingly.. Looking way WAY ahead 15 years or so you'll have First Great Western running all the services out of Paddington, First Great Eastern running all the services out of Liverpool Street. And then there'll be Crossrail running between the two stations...will this be 'First Crossrail'? Place your bets... |
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wrote: Looking way WAY ahead 15 years or so you'll have First Great Western running all the services out of Paddington, First Great Eastern running all the services out of Liverpool Street. And then there'll be Crossrail running between the two stations...will this be 'First Crossrail'? Place your bets... And what about merging the Euston/St.P/KX franchises serving the Midlands and then hiving Scotland and the area south of London off as separate units? Sam |
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"Stevie" wrote in message
.. . Looking way WAY ahead 15 years or so you'll have First Great Western running all the services out of Paddington, First Great Eastern running all the services out of Liverpool Street. Is it not a good thing to a smaller number of large companies running services, rather smaller ones which need bailing out every few months? |
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![]() "Stevie" wrote in message .. . gwr4090 wrote: The SRA has announced this morning that First Group has been selected as the preferred bidder to run the Thames Trains franchise from 1 April 2004 to 31 March 2006. No details yet of what impact this will have on train services to be provided. There are still two options under consideration. SRA announcement: http://195.157.46.131/news/20031104_...ra nchise.tt2 First Group press release: http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/n...e.php?item=159 Interestingly.. Looking way WAY ahead 15 years or so you'll have First Great Western running all the services out of Paddington, First Great Eastern running all the services out of Liverpool Street. And then there'll be Crossrail running between the two stations...will this be 'First Crossrail'? Place your bets... You are assuming that Crossrail would be let by the SRA as a normal franchise. If London Rail (TfL) have anything to do with it (and they do seeing as they are joint partners with the SRA in the project) Crossrail will come under their authority. Colin |
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"Colin" wrote in message ...
"Stevie" wrote in message .. . gwr4090 wrote: The SRA has announced this morning that First Group has been selected as the preferred bidder to run the Thames Trains franchise from 1 April 2004 to 31 March 2006. No details yet of what impact this will have on train services to be provided. There are still two options under consideration. SRA announcement: http://195.157.46.131/news/20031104_...ra nchise.tt2 First Group press release: http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/n...e.php?item=159 Interestingly.. Looking way WAY ahead 15 years or so you'll have First Great Western running all the services out of Paddington, First Great Eastern running all the services out of Liverpool Street. And then there'll be Crossrail running between the two stations...will this be 'First Crossrail'? Place your bets... You are assuming that Crossrail would be let by the SRA as a normal franchise. If London Rail (TfL) have anything to do with it (and they do seeing as they are joint partners with the SRA in the project) Crossrail will come under their authority. Colin Anything about Ealing Bdy getting more services from this? I think the stop should really be put on the Thames Express services if not the GWR mainline. I'd say it looks like First would be lining up for Crossrail should it come up for tender, is it wise to let these companies effectively turn into what could become a new big four? |
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![]() "CJC" wrote in message snip I'd say it looks like First would be lining up for Crossrail should it come up for tender, is it wise to let these companies effectively turn into what could become a new big four? It may be wise. It may be desirable. It may be policy. regards CC |
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![]() "CJC" wrote in message m... Anything about Ealing Bdy getting more services from this? I think the stop should really be put on the Thames Express services if not the GWR mainline. With 11-12 trains an hour on the Main Lines, more in peak periods (4 HEx, 5-6 FGW, 2+ Thames) it is not practical to stop any of these at Ealing Broadway or Hayes, and undesriable to have more trains switching between the Main and Relief Lines. A few Slough stops are possible, as the service thins out after HEx leave at Airport Junction. The proposed Paddington - Heathrow stopping service will enable the Paddington - Slough stopping trains to miss out West Ealing and Hanwell, and this in turn will allow a regular 15 minute interval service on the Relief Lines Paddington - Ealing - Hayes - Slough and stations to Reading. Peter |
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![]() "Peter Masson" wrote in message ... "CJC" wrote in message m... Anything about Ealing Bdy getting more services from this? I think the stop should really be put on the Thames Express services if not the GWR mainline. With 11-12 trains an hour on the Main Lines, more in peak periods (4 HEx, 5-6 FGW, 2+ Thames) it is not practical to stop any of these at Ealing Broadway or Hayes, and undesriable to have more trains switching between the Main and Relief Lines. A few Slough stops are possible, as the service thins out after HEx leave at Airport Junction. The proposed Paddington - Heathrow stopping service will enable the Paddington - Slough stopping trains to miss out West Ealing and Hanwell, and this in turn will allow a regular 15 minute interval service on the Relief Lines Paddington - Ealing - Hayes - Slough and stations to Reading. Wouldn't a far better solution be to extend the Central Line to Hayes so it can take over West Ealing, Hanwell and Southall? F A |
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![]() "Farmer Alfalfa" wrote in message ... Wouldn't a far better solution be to extend the Central Line to Hayes so it can take over West Ealing, Hanwell and Southall? I think the long-term plan, and a better solution, would be to 6-track the GWML between Paddington and Airport Junction. Peter |
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Stevie wrote:
Looking way WAY ahead 15 years or so you'll have First Great Western running all the services out of Paddington, First Great Eastern running all the services out of Liverpool Street. And then there'll be Crossrail running between the two stations...will this be 'First Crossrail'? Place your bets... My bet is we still won't have it yet. |
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