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On Oct 15, 8:45*pm, David E Newton wrote:
OPTION 3


Zone 3-5 Travelcard = £82.80/month
Monthly Season from Brimsdown to Hertford East = £94.80/month
TOTAL = £177.10


Again, there's the Brimsdown problem but look at the crazy price on the
season ticket. If you buy a season all the way to Hertford East but
always alight at Ware, one stop earlier, the season is £60 cheaper.


There are two monthly seasons between Brimsdown and Hertford East in
the National Fares Manual NFM 04 CD:
Route "Any Permitted": £146 monthly. No Restriction Applies
Route "Flexitime": £94.90 monthly. "Restriction : ES
LER HERTS & ESSEX FLEXITIME SEASON
Tickets are subject to the same issuing procedures as other Season
tickets.
Availability: In the country-bound direction travel is permitted on
any train on any day. In the London-bound direction, travel is only
permitted on trains timed to depart after 1200 (midday) on Mondays to
Fridays No restriction applies on Saturdays, Sundays and Bank
Holidays."

So, does anyone have any idea what the most sensible thing to do for
this journey is please?


If your partner is able to meet the time restriction, then the
Flexitime season may well form part of the best option.

John
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:55:29 -0700 (PDT), "John @ home"
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Availability: In the country-bound direction travel is permitted on
any train on any day. In the London-bound direction, travel is only
permitted on trains timed to depart after 1200 (midday) on Mondays to
Fridays No restriction applies on Saturdays, Sundays and Bank
Holidays."


Well... if I'd read this before my other post. Seems that they
already do do such a season ticket.

Neil

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On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:12:41 GMT, Neil Williams wrote:

Availability: In the country-bound direction travel is permitted on
any train on any day. In the London-bound direction, travel is only
permitted on trains timed to depart after 1200 (midday) on Mondays to
Fridays No restriction applies on Saturdays, Sundays and Bank
Holidays."


Well... if I'd read this before my other post. Seems that they
already do do such a season ticket.


But only for certain journeys - there's a Flexitime season for
Brimsdown to Hertford East, as mentioned, but not for Brimsdown to
Ware, or Tottenham Hale to Hertford East, or Hertford East to R3456.
This seems very odd.
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On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:12:41 GMT, Neil Williams wrote:

Availability: In the country-bound direction travel is permitted on
any train on any day. In the London-bound direction, travel is only
permitted on trains timed to depart after 1200 (midday) on Mondays to
Fridays No restriction applies on Saturdays, Sundays and Bank
Holidays."

Well... if I'd read this before my other post. Seems that they
already do do such a season ticket.


But only for certain journeys - there's a Flexitime season for
Brimsdown to Hertford East, as mentioned, but not for Brimsdown to
Ware, or Tottenham Hale to Hertford East, or Hertford East to R3456.
This seems very odd.


The other odd thing I found is that tickets from the Hertford North line
(e.g. Palmers Green) into Hertford North are massively cheaper than
those on the Hertford East line. I wonder why this is (The other plan
was to live in Palmers Green or Ally Pally and then cycle across from
Hertford North to Ware.)
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John @ home wrote:
On Oct 15, 8:45 pm, David E Newton wrote:
OPTION 3
Zone 3-5 Travelcard = £82.80/month
Monthly Season from Brimsdown to Hertford East = £94.80/month
TOTAL = £177.10
Again, there's the Brimsdown problem but look at the crazy price on the
season ticket. If you buy a season all the way to Hertford East but
always alight at Ware, one stop earlier, the season is £60 cheaper.


There are two monthly seasons between Brimsdown and Hertford East in
the National Fares Manual NFM 04 CD:
Route "Any Permitted": £146 monthly. No Restriction Applies
Route "Flexitime": £94.90 monthly. "Restriction : ES
LER HERTS & ESSEX FLEXITIME SEASON
Tickets are subject to the same issuing procedures as other Season
tickets.
Availability: In the country-bound direction travel is permitted on
any train on any day. In the London-bound direction, travel is only
permitted on trains timed to depart after 1200 (midday) on Mondays to
Fridays No restriction applies on Saturdays, Sundays and Bank
Holidays."

So, does anyone have any idea what the most sensible thing to do for
this journey is please?


If your partner is able to meet the time restriction, then the
Flexitime season may well form part of the best option.


Excellent, though I'm not sure what the difference was between the
£94.80 I found and this £94.90. The NR seasons page just gave the one
option.

It'll be a bit of a shag buying multiple tickets (though she may go
annual) but for the price difference, probably worth it and she'll
probably stick some PAYG on the Oyster for going into Zone 1-2 at weekends.


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In uk.transport.london David E Newton wrote:
It'll be a bit of a shag buying multiple tickets (though she may go
annual) but for the price difference, probably worth it and she'll
probably stick some PAYG on the Oyster for going into Zone 1-2 at weekends.


I'm no expert, but am I right in also thinking that having a travelcard
season also allows free use of buses in all zones? That would be an
advantage over getting a strictly point-point rail season.

THeo
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"Theo Markettos" wrote

I'm no expert, but am I right in also thinking that having a travelcard
season also allows free use of buses in all zones? That would be an
advantage over getting a strictly point-point rail season.

Yes

Peter
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In uk.railway Peter Masson wrote:
"Theo Markettos" wrote

I'm no expert, but am I right in also thinking that having a travelcard
season also allows free use of buses in all zones? That would be an
advantage over getting a strictly point-point rail season.

Yes


And, if you do buy an annual, for the rail bit you can get a Gold Card which
gives 1/3 off most off-peak tickets, plus a network card for a friend for 1
pound.

(Do NXEA give any further Gold Card benefits?)

Theo
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