From experience and I travel from South London I have to say that I
find Thameslink one of the most rigourous for checking tickets. From
experience they are on at least 1/10 journeys that I have travelled on
and seem to have far more ticket inspection then other train operating
companies. Some weeks my ticket has been checked at least three times.
Though this may be also partly to do with a number of unmaned stations
on the Sutton loop line in South London.

Martin



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On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 14:37:19 +0000, Huge wrote:
Hmmm. I've seen a "Revenue Protection Inspector" rugby tackle a scrote
at Bedford who hurdled the ticket barriers. Impressive athleticism on
both
sides....

What does the law say about having to go through the machines? If I
hurdle them, or somehow get past them without opening them, but I have a
legal ticket, am I in trouble?

Yes, in theory at least. From the railway byelaws

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/group...ys_504364.hcsp

9.2. Where the entrance to or exit from any platform or station is via an
automatic ticket barrier no person shall enter or leave the station, except
with permission from an authorised person, without passing through the
barrier in the correct manner.

Peter Smyth

(Huge) writes:

CMOT TMPV writes:
Once upon a time -- around about 11/8/03 12:41 --
possibly wrote:

What's the significance of the blue lights in the DLR tunnels?
They, if I recollect, serve the same purpose as in the JLE tunnels. They
mark where fire and rescue people may enter tunnels in an emergency.

Enter from where? I've seen no access tunnels.


They mark the positions of the emergency phones.


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In article , Jon McD
writes
Once saw a well dressed woman who was seemingly
in such a deep sleep that loud requests for her ticket couldn't wake her.
Once the inspectors had gone she woke up soon enough at her stop.

You're implying that she was faking it.

I will note that I've often fallen asleep on my commutes, including
trains with intermediate stops, yet always seem to wake about 30 seconds
before my station. The subconscious seems to have better route knowledge
than the conscious brain!

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9.2. Where the entrance to or exit from any platform or station is via an
automatic ticket barrier no person shall enter or leave the station,
except
with permission from an authorised person, without passing through the
barrier in the correct manner.

If there is no staff around and your ticket is rejected, can you follow
someone through or go through the luggage rack? Also, can you enter by an
(unlocked) side gate if your ticket is Rejected.
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We had a yoof who didn't respond to increasingly loud attempts by a WAGN
ticket inspector to wake him up on the 10:15 Cruiser from Cambridge to
King's Cross the other day. He was so deeply asleep (or successful at
giving that impression) that the inspector arranged to stop the train at
Stevenage and call an ambulance for fear that he was unconscious. Luckily
WAGN inspectors have long carried mobile phones.

The ambulance crew eventually revived the guy. He was handed over the
transport police when he claimed to have no ticket or money. Meanwhile the
rest of the train's passengers were tipped out into the 10:31 ex-Cambridge
and arrived half an hour late at the Cross having stood all the way from
Stevenage.

I hope the courts were not lenient with him.

If they tried to wake them by shaking (or touching) them could they make the
excuse that they thought they were unconscious and were trying to bring them
out of it?
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:10:09 +0000, "Clive D. W. Feather"
wrote:

I will note that I've often fallen asleep on my commutes, including
trains with intermediate stops, yet always seem to wake about 30 seconds
before my station. The subconscious seems to have better route knowledge
than the conscious brain!

The subconscious (body clock etc) has surprising abilities at times; I
seem to have this uncanny ability to wake automatically two or three
minutes before my alarm goes off - almost every day!

I can't sleep on trains (or buses), anyway - too noisy and too much
movement...

Neil

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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:22:21 -0000, "Joe"
wrote:

If there is no staff around and your ticket is rejected, can you follow
someone through or go through the luggage rack? Also, can you enter by an
(unlocked) side gate if your ticket is Rejected.

That situation should never arise, as barriers should never be in use
when staff are not present. This is because an evacuation in
emergency without a means of opening the barriers would present too
much of a hazard.

Neil

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In message , Jon McD
writes
I wouldn't be surprised if ticket inspectors are not allowed touch or detain
passengers they suspect of not having tickets.

Of course in those circumstances all it takes is a public spirited
fellow passenger to give them an elb.. er, nudge to assist matters.

It reminds me of the last tube strike when the pleas of a conductor for
some people to step down off his overloaded routemaster fell on deaf
ears and I informed the people in question that as I was not going to be
sacked by introducing them to the pavement head first there was little
to prevent me from attempting it.

Sadly most people in London seem to think that pretending things are
someone else's problem is the solution to everything. Including fare
dodgers.
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in:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:10:09 +0000, "Clive D. W. Feather"
wrote:

I will note that I've often fallen asleep on my commutes,
including trains with intermediate stops, yet always seem to wake
about 30 seconds before my station. The subconscious seems to have
better route knowledge than the conscious brain!

The subconscious (body clock etc) has surprising abilities at
times; I seem to have this uncanny ability to wake automatically
two or three minutes before my alarm goes off - almost every day!

That's a very uncanny ability indeed. My ability is nearly the
opposite: to wake several minutes after my alarm clock has gone off.

I can't sleep on trains (or buses), anyway - too noisy and too
much movement...

My problem with sleeping on public transport (or practically any
transport for that matter) is that there's nowhere to rest my head.

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James Masterton wrote:

It reminds me of the last tube strike when the pleas of a conductor
for
some people to step down off his overloaded routemaster fell on deaf
ears and I informed the people in question that as I was not going to
be sacked by introducing them to the pavement head first there was
little to prevent me from attempting it.

Sadly most people in London seem to think that pretending things are
someone else's problem is the solution to everything. Including fare
dodgers.

Presumably you got off the RM yourself as well then?

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