On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:02:29 +0100
Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:58:17 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

If london had a flat fare system it wouldn't need all this overcomplicated
gate ******** anyway. You'd pay the fare to get through the entry gates with
a token or oyster or whatever and the exit gates could be freely revolving
turnstyles.

But we don't and never, ever will have so have a nice daydream.

Well no we won't - not while public transport is looked upon as a potential
money making business rather than a public service.

B2003

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 05:26:52PM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:58:17 on Thu, 22 Oct 2009,
remarked:
If london had a flat fare system it wouldn't need all this overcomplicated
gate ******** anyway. You'd pay the fare to get through the entry gates with
a token or oyster or whatever and the exit gates could be freely revolving
turnstyles.
A flat fare system that coped with Covent Garden to Leicester Square as
well as Epping to Aylesbury, would be a feat to behold.

It's quite right that people should be penalised for taking the tube
from Covent Garden to Leicester Square instead of walking.

--
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On the bright side, if sendmail is tied up routing spam and pointless
uknot posts, it's not waving its arse around saying "root me!"
-- Peter Corlett, in uknot

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:53:01 +0100, David Cantrell
wrote:

It's quite right that people should be penalised for taking the tube
from Covent Garden to Leicester Square instead of walking.

And is slightly less ridiculous than the fact that someone doing a
single journey by bus that involves 3 buses has to pay 3 times as much
as someone doing a single journey involving 1 bus.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

Neil Williams wrote:
On 22 Oct 2009 09:21:26 GMT, Adrian wrote:

I had a valid ticket which had worked fine elsewhere but for some
reason wouldn't activate any of the barriers on that barrier line.

With hindsight I should have reported this, as it could have become a
very serious issue in the event of a fire.

I doubt your ticket would have gone up in flames.

LOROL!!

In message , at 11:53:01
on Fri, 23 Oct 2009, David Cantrell remarked:
If london had a flat fare system it wouldn't need all this overcomplicated
gate ******** anyway. You'd pay the fare to get through the entry gates with
a token or oyster or whatever and the exit gates could be freely revolving
turnstyles.
A flat fare system that coped with Covent Garden to Leicester Square as
well as Epping to Aylesbury, would be a feat to behold.

It's quite right that people should be penalised for taking the tube
from Covent Garden to Leicester Square instead of walking.

Indeed, but it's the example most often used round here.

What do you think the flat would need to be, to cope with journeys
inside Z1 and also to Aylesbury, Heathrow and Epping?
--
Roland Perry

On 23 Oct, 16:42, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:53:01
on Fri, 23 Oct 2009, David Cantrell remarked:

If london had a flat fare system it wouldn't need all this overcomplicated
gate ******** anyway. You'd pay the fare to get through the entry gates with
a token or oyster or whatever and the exit gates could be freely revolving
turnstyles.
A flat fare system that coped with Covent Garden to Leicester Square as
well as Epping to Aylesbury, would be a feat to behold.

It's quite right that people should be penalised for taking the tube
from Covent Garden to Leicester Square instead of walking.

Indeed, but it's the example most often used round here.

What do you think the flat would need to be, to cope with journeys
inside Z1 and also to Aylesbury, Heathrow and Epping?

Opening the bidding at 5p.

In message of Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:26:52
in uk.transport.london, Roland Perry writes
In message , at 10:58:17 on Thu, 22 Oct 2009,
remarked:
If london had a flat fare system it wouldn't need all this overcomplicated
gate ******** anyway. You'd pay the fare to get through the entry gates with
a token or oyster or whatever and the exit gates could be freely revolving
turnstyles.

A flat fare system that coped with Covent Garden to Leicester Square as
well as Epping to Aylesbury, would be a feat to behold.

Why Aylesbury?
http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/metropolitan.html has
"1961-09-10 Amersham to Aylesbury (1) withdrawn"
Could Boris, with his interest in Ancient History, be persuaded to
organise Oyster access to this line? It is only 4 stations: Great
Missenden, Wendover, Stoke Mandeville and Aylesbury.
--
Walter Briscoe

On 24 Oct, 07:33, Walter Briscoe wrote:
In message of Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:26:52
in uk.transport.london, Roland Perry writes

In message , at 10:58:17 on Thu, 22 Oct 2009,
remarked:
If london had a flat fare system it wouldn't need all this overcomplicated
gate ******** anyway. You'd pay the fare to get through the entry gates with
a token or oyster or whatever and the exit gates could be freely revolving
turnstyles.

A flat fare system that coped with Covent Garden to Leicester Square as
well as Epping to Aylesbury, would be a feat to behold.

Why Aylesbury?
http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/metropolitan.html has
"1961-09-10 *Amersham to Aylesbury (1) withdrawn"
Could Boris, with his interest in Ancient History, be persuaded to
organise Oyster access to this line? It is only 4 stations: Great
Missenden, Wendover, Stoke Mandeville and Aylesbury.
--
Walter Briscoe

But evidently popular enough that a couple of peak trains miss out
Amersham and go non-stop just to those last four stations.

wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:26:52 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:58:17 on Thu, 22 Oct 2009,
remarked:
If london had a flat fare system it wouldn't need all this overcomplicated
gate ******** anyway. You'd pay the fare to get through the entry gates with
a token or oyster or whatever and the exit gates could be freely revolving
turnstyles.
A flat fare system that coped with Covent Garden to Leicester Square as
well as Epping to Aylesbury, would be a feat to behold.

They managed a flat fare in New York. You ever looked at the distance between
Times Square and Far Rockaway?

B2003


It used to be a double fare out to Far Rockaway some years ago, though,
wasn't it? How did that work?

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:53:01
on Fri, 23 Oct 2009, David Cantrell remarked:
If london had a flat fare system it wouldn't need all this
overcomplicated
gate ******** anyway. You'd pay the fare to get through the entry
gates with
a token or oyster or whatever and the exit gates could be freely
revolving
turnstyles.
A flat fare system that coped with Covent Garden to Leicester Square as
well as Epping to Aylesbury, would be a feat to behold.

It's quite right that people should be penalised for taking the tube
from Covent Garden to Leicester Square instead of walking.

Indeed, but it's the example most often used round here.

What do you think the flat would need to be, to cope with journeys
inside Z1 and also to Aylesbury, Heathrow and Epping?

There are no plans to revive LUL Amersham-Aylesbury service, are there?