In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:

AIUI, an outboundary ODTC loses its validity on return to the
originating station. So it might be inconvenient, but I don't think
it's strictly naughty.

I Still have the ticket :-)

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:56:33PM +0000, asdf wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:52:12 +0000 (UTC), Tim Woodall wrote:
Just keep the ODTC and wait and see what happens
The barriers at the end of his journey probably ate that. (They do at
Watford Junction anyway
That's naughty - they're still valid on the 258.

They're also valid for another journey from Watford Junction going back
the other way.

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:56:33PM +0000, asdf wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:52:12 +0000 (UTC), Tim Woodall wrote:
Just keep the ODTC and wait and see what happens
The barriers at the end of his journey probably ate that. (They do at
Watford Junction anyway
That's naughty - they're still valid on the 258.

They're also valid for another journey from Watford Junction going back
the other way.

They most definitely are not.

WJ is like any other outside London station in that respect, a ODTC from
that type of station is valid for only one return train journey into London.
The fact that WJ is still inside the London bus area does not change that.

tim

tim.... wrote

WJ is like any other outside London station in that respect, a ODTC
from
that type of station is valid for only one return train journey into
London.
The fact that WJ is still inside the London bus area does not change
that.

Looking at it the other way about, could you buy a out boundary ODTC
"dated for tomorrow" at say Staines or Leatherhead (both have Tfl
"beyonds the zones" services passing) and legally use it to get to get
to the station in the morning ?

How about if it was a super offpeak not valid on rail until 1100+,
could you legally use it on a bus earlier ?

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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:00:50 GMT, Neil Williams wrote:

The barriers at the end of his journey probably ate that. (They do at
Watford Junction anyway

That's naughty - they're still valid on the 258.

AIUI, an outboundary ODTC loses its validity on return to the
originating station. So it might be inconvenient, but I don't think
it's strictly naughty.

I'm sure I've read something official about them still being valid on
TfL buses outside the zones, but can't find where now.

"asdf" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:00:50 GMT, Neil Williams wrote:

The barriers at the end of his journey probably ate that. (They do
at
Watford Junction anyway

That's naughty - they're still valid on the 258.

AIUI, an outboundary ODTC loses its validity on return to the
originating station. So it might be inconvenient, but I don't think
it's strictly naughty.

I'm sure I've read something official about them still being valid on
TfL buses outside the zones, but can't find where now.

The Manual states

On completion of the return journey Out-boundary Day Travelcards are not
valid for further journeys into the Travelcard area. However, customers
may, upon request, retain their ticket for further journeys that are
wholly within Fare Zones 1-6 only and on the day for which the ticket is
valid. They may also be retained for travel on permitted London bus
services that operate outside the London Fare Zones area. Details of
available bus services are published by Transport for London.

Peter Smyth

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:20:48 -0000,
Peter Smyth wrote:

"asdf" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:00:50 GMT, Neil Williams wrote:

The barriers at the end of his journey probably ate that. (They do
at
Watford Junction anyway

That's naughty - they're still valid on the 258.

AIUI, an outboundary ODTC loses its validity on return to the
originating station. So it might be inconvenient, but I don't think
it's strictly naughty.

I'm sure I've read something official about them still being valid on
TfL buses outside the zones, but can't find where now.

The Manual states

On completion of the return journey Out-boundary Day Travelcards are not
valid for further journeys into the Travelcard area. However, customers
may, upon request, retain their ticket for further journeys that are
wholly within Fare Zones 1-6 only and on the day for which the ticket is
valid. They may also be retained for travel on permitted London bus
services that operate outside the London Fare Zones area. Details of
available bus services are published by Transport for London.

That's very interesting. Because if you ask to keep your ticket at
Watford Junction they deliberately put a tear into the magnetic strip.
Of course, this could just be to force you to show your ticket - when in
zones 1-6 it would be accepted, at WJ it would be rejected.

Tim.


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