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Thanks for the interesting replies about 1829. There was less "public
transport" than I had thought! Could I ask the same question for 1879 - ie: what *other* public transport was available in London 50 years after the city's first omnibus route started? Or recommendations of websites to help in my quest? I have obtained an "onnibus guide" for this year (although it proclaims itself to be incomplete) and I'm sure information on main line railways for the year is readily available. I believe there would have been one or two horse tramways by this time, and possibly the "Tower Subway" cable cars? I'm even more vague on water-bourne transport. I *had* begun an 1879 London public transport map based on Mr Harris's historical maps (www.busmap.org) with permission, but lost it all due to a PC problem! I'll (hopefully) upload a new PDF version to www.earthfish.co.uk sometime soon. Thanks again for any help given. |
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J. Morris writes:
Could I ask the same question for 1879 - ie: what *other* public transport was available in London 50 years after the city's first omnibus route started? ... What you need to do now is head for a suitable library and find a copy of "A History of London Transport - Volume 1 - The Nineteenth Century", by T.C. Barker and Michael Robbins, published 1963 by George Allen and Unwin. This covers all modes of transport in considerable detail. (There is also a considerably larger Volume 2, which goes up to 1947 in detail and then has a brief summary of developments to about 1970. The index for both volumes is in Volume 2.) I'm sure information on main line railways for the year is readily available. In 1879 the main line railway network in London was already fairly close to its present shape, although of course there have been some lines opened or closed since then. The book includes maps showing the railway network in 1855, 1875, and 1900, each giving dates for all changes since the previous map. All trains used steam locomotives, of course, and as far as I know it was normal to provide three classes of travel even for short journeys. I believe there would have been one or two horse tramways by this time There is an 1875 map of these too, and an 1895 map. (These show where the trams ran, but not the individual routes.) The biggest horse tram network in 1875 was the North Metropolitan, which connected three City terminals with six outer ones. The City terminals were at Aldgate, Finsbury Square, and a point near today's Old Street tube station; lines ran to East India Dock, Stratford, Stamford Hill, Stoke Newington, Clissold Park, Finsbury Park, and Archway Tavern. The London Street Tramways had a smaller network immediately west of this area, running north from Euston and King's Cross, also reaching such points as Archway Tavern. Completely separate and mostly south of the river was the London Tramways system, with such terminals as Greenwich, Brixton, Clapham Common, Victoria, Westminster Bridge, Blackfriars Bridge, and a point near today's Borough tube station. And separate again was the first section of the West Metropolitan, from Shepherds Bush to Acton. And way out in the north, the Wotton Tramway was open from Quainton Road to Brill -- I mention this only because for a time, later on, it became a branch of the Metropolitan Line. and possibly the "Tower Subway" cable cars? The plural is wrong -- there was only one car. And the date is also wrong; it only operated for a few months in 1870. In 1879 the Tower Subway was open only to pedestrians. I'm even more vague on water-bourne transport. It was collapsing at this time, in the face of rail competition. The London Steamboat Company was formed in 1876 by the merger of all four operators then surviving, and attempted to run paddle- wheelers twice an hour all year connecting Chelsea, Greenwich, and Woolwich; services previously operating to such points as Richmond and Gravesend had already ended. But there was little traffic in the winter, and even in summer the company mainly survived on excursion traffic, but this too was diminishing, and it didn't help when 700 people died in the 1878 sinking of the Princess Alice. I *had* begun an 1879 London public transport map based on Mr Harris's historical maps (www.busmap.org) with permission ... The book goes into some detail about the various companies operating (horse-drawn) bus routes, but does not include any bus maps. Now the Underground. In 1879 today's Circle Line, then called the Inner Circle, was still missing the eastern section from Liverpool Street to Mansion House. The northern and western sides belonged to the Metropolitan Railway (Met) and the southern side to what had become its arch-enemy, the Metropolitan District Railway (MDR or "District"). The two companies operated trains on separate routes from their respective termini to Hammersmith (today's H&C and District Lines), then both services continued over LSWR tracks (essentially today's District Line) to Richmond. Met and MDR trains also ran from one end of the incomplete Inner Circle to the other, and also took the Middle Circle route, which was the same except between Paddington and Gloucester Road, where it followed the H&C to Latimer Road, then headed for Addison Road (today's Kensington (Olympia)) and Earl's Court via the West London Railway. Other MDR trains ran onto two branches: the one to Ealing Broadway, as today, opened in 1879, and today's Wimbledon branch existed only as far as West Brompton. And other Met trains operated what was at that time a completely separate service starting at Baker Street; in 1879 its outer terminus was extended to West Hampstead. Met and MDR services were operated by condensing steam engines -- when running in tunnel, the steam was directed into the water tanks. The smoke was exhausted as normal. The trains used compartment stock with three classes of travel, I think. All trains on the Met were standard gauge by this time. The Met and the MDR had several track connections with main line railways. I have already mentioned the LSWR and WLR (in fact, the MDR actually consisted of two separate sections joined only by the LSWR); the Met was connected at Paddington with the GWR, at St. Pancras with the Midland, at King's Cross with the GNR, and at Farringdon with the LC&DR, and trains from all these railways ran onto the Met. Through services were carried between the LC&DR to the south and both the Midland and GNR to the north, the former being essentially today's Thameslink. The tracks now used by Thameslink alongside the Underground -- the City Widened Lines -- then belonged to the Met. LNWR trains ran from Mansion House via today's District, then via the WLR and NLR to Broad Street -- this was the Outer Circle route. Midland trains also ran a short way onto the District at this time, via a circuitous and short-lived route from St. Pancras to Earl's Court (via Acton) called the Super Outer Circle. The East London Railway also existed at this time, but was not considered an underground line although it did run though the Thames Tunnel. It was used mostly for through services from Liverpool Street station onto the SER and LB&SCR via their respective New Cross stations (now New Cross and New Cross Gate). Much of this detail was taken from Clive's Underground Line Guides http://www.davros.org/rail/culg. -- Mark Brader | "Design an idiot-proof system, and the universe Toronto | will spontaneously evolve a higher grade of idiot | that is able to circumvent it." My text in this article is in the public domain. |
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