It is to the credit of TfL that their journey planner already seems
to know the NLL is out for that period. I

It does? I can't the journey planner to recognise that the year 2010
exists!

Nor can I. ;( I even tried:

It's a fair cop 'guvs. I cocked up. It never occurred to me to pay any
attention to the year.

snip

I suspect a Journey Planner year should be a rolling period of about
12 months about the current month rather than the 12 months of the
current calendar year.

I also see that the Journey Planner indicates that inf. about services
over the Christmas period (including Christmas Eve) will be available
mid-December. That seem to be rather a poor show for people wanting to
plan now (including for instance booking journeys through London). Just
out of interest, is it a matter of management still being in negotiation
with unions/staff?
--
R

I know a bit about what is going on in relation to the NLL works. The
NLL closure was originally planned for 16 weeks starting after xmas,
however this has now been delayed until mid february. The reason for
the delay is that Network Rail have been unable to confirm closure
dates, as they do not have the required signalling software ready for
the new signalling between Camden and Stratford. If the route closes
in mid febraury (20th) then the route would repeon in early june (16
weeks). The closure will still be between Gospel Oak and Stratford.

During the closure replacement buses will run Stratford to Hampstead
Heath at 3 buses per hour. C Rd & Barnsbury won't be served. I would
imagine they will be a bit busy, so good luck trying to get on them at
Stratford in the morning! In addition the rail service will be reduced
Willesden to Gospel Oak from 6tph to 4tph. The trains terminating at
Gospel Oak will run at uneven headway so that trains for instance
arriving at gospel oak arrive at xx.10, xx30, xx40 and xx00.

Not sure why this isn't being made public yet. Although as people say
on here people like to know so that they can plan what they do.
Appears in this case to be a NR issue, but this doesn't excuse TfL not
keeping people informed. I expect their comms people are still trying
to work out how to put the River Thames back on the tube map, so don't
have time to worry about this!

There will be an xmas closure for 9 days over the xmas period on the
NLL for work to be done as well.

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many thanks.

Looks as if it'll be a good job we are still a two-car household!

--
R

neverwas wrote:
It is to the credit of TfL that their journey planner already seems
to know the NLL is out for that period. I
It does? I can't the journey planner to recognise that the year 2010
exists!
Nor can I. ;( I even tried:

It's a fair cop 'guvs. I cocked up. It never occurred to me to pay any
attention to the year.

snip

I suspect a Journey Planner year should be a rolling period of about
12 months about the current month rather than the 12 months of the
current calendar year.

I also see that the Journey Planner indicates that inf. about services
over the Christmas period (including Christmas Eve) will be available
mid-December. That seem to be rather a poor show for people wanting to
plan now (including for instance booking journeys through London). Just
out of interest, is it a matter of management still being in negotiation
with unions/staff?

What does happen with staff when a line is put out of service? What has
also happened with staff from the East London Line and what will happen
with them once the line goes back into service, which I understand to be
23 May 2010.

In message , "
writes

I also see that the Journey Planner indicates that inf. about
services over the Christmas period (including Christmas Eve) will be
available mid-December. That seem to be rather a poor show for
people wanting to plan now (including for instance booking journeys
through London). Just out of interest, is it a matter of management
still being in negotiation with unions/staff?

What does happen with staff when a line is put out of service? What has
also happened with staff from the East London Line and what will happen
with them once the line goes back into service, which I understand to
be 23 May 2010.

In the case of the ELL, the LUL drivers were displaced to a 'depot of
their choice'. I gather many (most?) chose to transfer to Leytonstone
and have duly been trained there on the Central line. This has caused a
large over-compliment there and some are now transferring to Stratford
Market depot for the Jubilee.

Once the new ELL runs it will be operated by LOROL with their drivers.
--
Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)

Steve Fitzgerald wrote:
In message , "
writes

I also see that the Journey Planner indicates that inf. about
services over the Christmas period (including Christmas Eve) will be
available mid-December. That seem to be rather a poor show for
people wanting to plan now (including for instance booking journeys
through London). Just out of interest, is it a matter of management
still being in negotiation with unions/staff?

What does happen with staff when a line is put out of service? What
has also happened with staff from the East London Line and what will
happen with them once the line goes back into service, which I
understand to be 23 May 2010.

In the case of the ELL, the LUL drivers were displaced to a 'depot of
their choice'. I gather many (most?) chose to transfer to Leytonstone
and have duly been trained there on the Central line. This has caused a
large over-compliment there and some are now transferring to Stratford
Market depot for the Jubilee.

Once the new ELL runs it will be operated by LOROL with their drivers.
I see.

What happens with drivers when a line is shut down for a day or two,
such as the Victoria Line?

On Nov 9, 1:09 am, "
wrote:
I see.

What happens with drivers when a line is shut down for a day or two,
such as the Victoria Line?

They go to the depot and play cards for their shift.

[Non-driving work, training etc, is probably also done.]

--
Abi

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Many thanks for that.


puzzled

Better that than mushroomed (in the sense of kept in the dark
and.......)
--
R

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:31:40 GMT, "neverwas"
wrote:

I also see that the Journey Planner indicates that inf. about services
over the Christmas period (including Christmas Eve) will be available
mid-December. That seem to be rather a poor show for people wanting to
plan now (including for instance booking journeys through London). Just
out of interest, is it a matter of management still being in negotiation
with unions/staff?

I doubt that is the reason. I've seen an internal notice outlining the
LUL plans - from memory nothing terribly serious and I expect the LUL
Real Time page will show quite clearly what is shut down for engineering
works on any given day. There is a 6 month look ahead list so this is
not a secret.

I heard about plans to shut down the line during the first quarter of
this year.