Paul Scott wrote on 12 December 2009
10:37:23 ...
MIG wrote:

Today I noticed "Hammersmith via Paddington" on the front, which I
don't remember seeing before.

Presumably this is meant to be relevant east of Liverpool Street, and
I don't know what it offers over "via Kings Cross" except maybe it's
to discourage anyone from heading for Paddington via the lower bit of
the Circle, which won't have changed ...

Allegedly Circle Line trains leaving Hammersmith are supposed
to display 'Circle Line via Aldgate' until Liverpool St
followed by 'Circle Line to Edgware Rd.'

On the return they are supposed to display
'Circle Line via Aldgate' again until Tower Hill
followed by 'Circle Line to Hammersmith'

If that's true, it means that you* can't tell in which direction a
Circle Line train at Edgware Road will depart, as they all display
"Circle Line via Aldgate"!

* well, not you utl people obviously, but a random London visitor
entering from the ticket hall and seeing a "Circle Line via Aldgate"
blind on a train in one of the centre platforms might well be misled
into thinking it was going via Baker Street, as that's the more direct
route to Aldgate.
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Richard J. wrote:
Paul Scott wrote on 12 December 2009
10:37:23 ...
MIG wrote:

Today I noticed "Hammersmith via Paddington" on the front, which I
don't remember seeing before.

Presumably this is meant to be relevant east of Liverpool Street,
and I don't know what it offers over "via Kings Cross" except maybe
it's to discourage anyone from heading for Paddington via the lower
bit of the Circle, which won't have changed ...

Allegedly Circle Line trains leaving Hammersmith are supposed
to display 'Circle Line via Aldgate' until Liverpool St
followed by 'Circle Line to Edgware Rd.'

On the return they are supposed to display
'Circle Line via Aldgate' again until Tower Hill
followed by 'Circle Line to Hammersmith'

If that's true, it means that you* can't tell in which direction a
Circle Line train at Edgware Road will depart, as they all display
"Circle Line via Aldgate"!

* well, not you utl people obviously, but a random London visitor
entering from the ticket hall and seeing a "Circle Line via Aldgate"
blind on a train in one of the centre platforms might well be misled
into thinking it was going via Baker Street, as that's the more direct
route to Aldgate.

Yes, but I think [at least] in theory at Edgware Rd there have also been
corresponding changes to the platform signage.

The cunning plan is supposed to be that the 4 platforms have 4 separate
destinations marked up. Another subject about which there is some doubt of
course...

Paul S

Richard J. wrote:
Paul Scott wrote on 12 December 2009
10:37:23 ...

Allegedly Circle Line trains leaving Hammersmith are supposed
to display 'Circle Line via Aldgate' until Liverpool St
followed by 'Circle Line to Edgware Rd.'

On the return they are supposed to display
'Circle Line via Aldgate' again until Tower Hill
followed by 'Circle Line to Hammersmith'

If that's true, it means that you* can't tell in which direction a
Circle Line train at Edgware Road will depart, as they all display
"Circle Line via Aldgate"!

I thought the same thing as you, although on reflection the existing
situation where trains in both directions read "Circle" wasn't much better.

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On 12 Dec, 13:52, "Basil Jet"
wrote:
Richard J. wrote:
Paul Scott wrote on 12 December 2009
10:37:23 ...

Allegedly Circle Line trains leaving Hammersmith are supposed
to display 'Circle Line via Aldgate' until Liverpool St
followed by 'Circle Line to Edgware Rd.'

On the return they are supposed to display
'Circle Line via Aldgate' again until Tower Hill
followed by 'Circle Line to Hammersmith'

If that's true, it means that you* can't tell in which direction a
Circle Line train at Edgware Road will depart, as they all display
"Circle Line via Aldgate"!

I thought the same thing as you, although on reflection the existing
situation where trains in both directions read "Circle" wasn't much better.

Except that the two kinds of Circle used mutually exclusive sets of
platforms.

This won't be the case in future. It will be trains on either side of
the same island platform, from both of which trains have been known to
depart for Baker Street.

On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:37:23 -0000, Paul Scott wrote:

Today I noticed "Hammersmith via Paddington" on the front, which I
don't remember seeing before.

Presumably this is meant to be relevant east of Liverpool Street, and
I don't know what it offers over "via Kings Cross" except maybe it's
to discourage anyone from heading for Paddington via the lower bit of
the Circle, which won't have changed ...

Hammersmith via Paddington is provided for H&C use apparently. District
Dave's forum has a post with the full new blind listing, and various
comments suggestng that LU haven't actually told the staff what they want
them to do yet.

I always assumed it was "Hammersmith via Shepherds Bush" because (east
of Edgware Road) Hammersmith via High St Ken is at least theoretically
possible.

"asdf" wrote in message
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I always assumed it was "Hammersmith via Shepherds Bush" because (east
of Edgware Road) Hammersmith via High St Ken is at least theoretically
possible.

'Hammersmith via Shepherds Bush' apparently isn't provided on the new
blinds...

Paul S

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:52:13 -0000, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

'Hammersmith via Shepherds Bush' apparently isn't provided on the new
blinds...

If TfL weren't so bloody prissy about such things, might it have been
a good time to install LED blinds which could have changed themselves
at the same time as the announcements that currently (until today, at
least) say things like "This is a Circle Line train via Liverpool St
and Paddington"?

Neil

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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:04:59 GMT, Neil Williams wrote:

'Hammersmith via Shepherds Bush' apparently isn't provided on the new
blinds...

If TfL weren't so bloody prissy about such things, might it have been
a good time to install LED blinds which could have changed themselves
at the same time as the announcements that currently (until today, at
least) say things like "This is a Circle Line train via Liverpool St
and Paddington"?

I think the "prissiness" only applies to buses, as several varieties
of LU stock have LED destination displays. It's probably just the cost
(particularly as the C Stock will be scrapped in a few years anyway).

On 13 Dec, 16:15, asdf wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:04:59 GMT, Neil Williams wrote:
'Hammersmith via Shepherds Bush' apparently isn't provided on the new
blinds...

If TfL weren't so bloody prissy about such things, might it have been
a good time to install LED blinds which could have changed themselves
at the same time as the announcements that currently (until today, at
least) say things like "This is a Circle Line train via Liverpool St
and Paddington"?

I think the "prissiness" only applies to buses, as several varieties
of LU stock have LED destination displays. It's probably just the cost
(particularly as the C Stock will be scrapped in a few years anyway).

And let's be grateful that LU generally always provides displays,
unlike NR (like the considerably younger 465/9s that went through a
whole refurbishment programme, installing extra toilets, first class
accommodation etc, but were still left without any destination
displays).

Paul Scott wrote:
"asdf" wrote in message
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I always assumed it was "Hammersmith via Shepherds Bush" because
(east of Edgware Road) Hammersmith via High St Ken is at least
theoretically possible.

'Hammersmith via Shepherds Bush' apparently isn't provided on the new
blinds...

Just as well, since Shepherds Bush is a Central Line station.

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