On 24 Nov, 19:58, Paul Terry wrote:
In message , Tim Roll-Pickering
writes

It is only needed if you have a season/travelcard on your Oyster and you
want to use PAYG in order to pay for an out-of-zone journey.
Yes but if you have the season/travelcard already on it's difficult to use
PAYG. For instance if I have a Zones 1-3 travelcard and want to go Forest
Gate (Z3) to Ilford (Z4) I *can't* just use PAYG - I will *have* to get an
OEP which won't be available at my local starting station.

Agreed - you'd have to go to the Oyster shop just opposite the station.
OTOH, you can add the OEP at any time and from any convenient place that
supplies it - it costs nothing and it remains there to use for whenever
you want it.

But I suspect that NR ticket offices in the London area will eventually
provide the full range of Oyster services - it would be madness not to
do so.

And no doubt the paper extension fare will be whacked up to punish me
for not buying something unavailable to me.

It's not "unavailable" unless you can't cross the road to the Oyster
shop, and I've not seen any evidence in the 2010 fares tables of zone
extension tickets being "whacked up".
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Paul Terry

Just off the top of my head ... Where is the Oyster shop just over
the road from

St Johns
Lewisham

In message
, MIG
writes

Forest Gate Station

On 24 Nov, 19:58, Paul Terry wrote:

Agreed - you'd have to go to the Oyster shop just opposite the station.

Just off the top of my head ... Where is the Oyster shop just over
the road from

St Johns
Lewisham

No idea. I was writing about Forest Gate Station.
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Paul Terry

On 25 Nov, 12:42, Paul Terry wrote:
In message
, MIG
writes

Forest Gate Station

On 24 Nov, 19:58, Paul Terry wrote:
Agreed - you'd have to go to the Oyster shop just opposite the station..
Just off the top of my head ... *Where is the Oyster shop just over
the road from

St Johns
Lewisham

No idea. I was writing about Forest Gate Station.


Your reply appeared to be to Tim's general point. If I can think of
two, there must be many others which don't have an Oyster shop near
them.

In fact, shops right near stations often won't sell Oyster stuff,
because they'd become a substitute ticket office and the Oyster
commission wouldn't make up for their lost sales in newspapers and
crisps when their real customers are blocked by the queue.

MIG wrote:

In fact, shops right near stations often won't sell Oyster stuff,
because they'd become a substitute ticket office and the Oyster
commission wouldn't make up for their lost sales in newspapers and
crisps when their real customers are blocked by the queue.

And how happy will they be with people like me who aren't buying anything at
all but are just asking to have an OEP * put on their card?

(* And since the shop near Forest Gate nominated up thread currently
advertises "Travelling Cards" I am full of confidence that all their staff
will know what I will be asking for. Fortunately for me there is another
shop which I do use a bit, but if I'm travelling early or late it won't be
open.)

On 30 Nov, 15:51, "Tim Roll-Pickering"
wrote:
MIG wrote:
In fact, shops right near stations often won't sell Oyster stuff,
because they'd become a substitute ticket office and the Oyster
commission wouldn't make up for their lost sales in newspapers and
crisps when their real customers are blocked by the queue.

And how happy will they be with people like me who aren't buying anything at
all but are just asking to have an OEP * put on their card?

(* And since the shop near Forest Gate nominated up thread currently
advertises "Travelling Cards" I am full of confidence that all their staff
will know what I will be asking for. Fortunately for me there is another
shop which I do use a bit, but if I'm travelling early or late it won't be
open.)

But most of us here I'm sure will be loading an OEP 'just in case' for
future use, so will always have oner ready to use as they don't expire.

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:08:07 -0800 (PST), Chris
wrote:

But most of us here I'm sure will be loading an OEP 'just in case' for
future use, so will always have oner ready to use as they don't expire.

Which takes me back to my original point. If most people will indeed
do that (I would if I had a Travelcard on Oyster), why not just make
it the default position, avoidable by those who insist by not having
any PAYG balance on your card?

Neil

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Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

Chris wrote:

But most of us here I'm sure will be loading an OEP 'just in case' for
future use, so will always have oner ready to use as they don't expire.

Forgive me if I've misunderstood but surely the OEP will start working
whenever we touch in?

(BTW will OEPs be available from TfL ticket machines? Or will we have to
queue up for the ticket office for them?)

In article
,
(MIG) wrote:

Just off the top of my head ... Where is the Oyster shop just over
the road from

and, while we're asking, what about Hornsey?

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Colin Rosenstiel