On 30 Nov, 13:20, Chris wrote:
On 30 Nov, 08:48, MIG wrote:





On 30 Nov, 06:43, (Neil Williams)
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:25:42 -0800 (PST), MIG

wrote:
So Oyster would be a bank. *It ought to pay interest.

Most current accounts don't.

Didn't mean the comments to follow necessarily. *It ought to pay
interest anyway. *It's a system for us to lend our money up front and
use it later along with a whole new assumption of guilt, and now huge
inconveniences, thrown at us.

It's supposed to make everything more convenient, but in practice what
we really get is all other fares put up to coerce us to use this
system where we lend our money up front, but for practical reasons
that involves far more inconvenience and complication when we have to
mix systems to get the best deal.

The £3, which almost no one is ever going to claim back, is like a
bank charge for having an account at all. *Most banks offer
inducements to get you to lend them their money.

But that 'interest' is being used in offering cheaper fares than by
paying cash - so you do get something in return.

A "discount" compared with cash fares they've increased to coerce you
to use Oyster? No thanks.

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:41:10 -0800 (PST), MIG
wrote:

A "discount" compared with cash fares they've increased to coerce you
to use Oyster? No thanks.

A quid for a bus fare is cheaper than most other cities in the UK, so
that at least is a discount. Two quid, the price of a paper ticket
(not seen one sold in ages), is nearer the mark for a journey of
substantial length. (It's 1.70 in MK, for example, and I believe
that's at the low end).

(I know it's going up to 1.20 next year, but I expect the MK fare will
probably go to 1.80 or 1.90 before too long.)

Has anyone noticed, incidentally, that the paper One Day Bus Pass is
being / has already been abolished in favour of Oyster?

Neil

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(Neil Williams) wrote:

Has anyone noticed, incidentally, that the paper One Day Bus Pass is
being / has already been abolished in favour of Oyster?

So how does someone get one from a bus stop ticket machine?

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Colin Rosenstiel

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:53:36 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:

Has anyone noticed, incidentally, that the paper One Day Bus Pass is
being / has already been abolished in favour of Oyster?

So how does someone get one from a bus stop ticket machine?

One doesn't.

I can't see those machines lasting, TBH. There are plenty of cities
where you can't buy a ticket at the point of use for bus travel and
have to go to, say, a newsagent.

Neil

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In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:53:36 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:

Has anyone noticed, incidentally, that the paper One Day Bus Pass is
being / has already been abolished in favour of Oyster?

So how does someone get one from a bus stop ticket machine?

One doesn't.

I can't see those machines lasting, TBH. There are plenty of cities
where you can't buy a ticket at the point of use for bus travel and
have to go to, say, a newsagent.

That was why we never used a bus in Warsaw. Impossible for tourists
without Polish.

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Colin Rosenstiel