On 30 Nov, 13:25, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, MIG wrote:
On 30 Nov, 06:43, (Neil Williams)
wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:25:42 -0800 (PST), MIG

wrote:
So Oyster would be a bank. *It ought to pay interest.

Most current accounts don't.

Didn't mean the comments to follow necessarily. *It ought to pay
interest anyway. *It's a system for us to lend our money up front and
use it later along with a whole new assumption of guilt, and now huge
inconveniences, thrown at us.

Have you considered moving to a city where the public transport ticketing
arrangements don't bring you to the brink of seizure on a daily basis?

I like Oyster. It's made things more convenient for me.

It may have the potential to make things convenient for everyone if
properly thought through and with the advantages and disadvantages
openly and honestly discussed and with no coercion.

On Dec 1, 9:57*am, MIG wrote:

It may have the potential to make things convenient for everyone if
properly thought through and with the advantages and disadvantages
openly and honestly discussed and with no coercion.

Just to add fuel to the flames, Southern have provided some clear and
unambiguous guidance (!) on this page:

http://www.southernrailway.com/ticke...s/oyster-card/

"If you already have a Travelcard but want to use your Oyster card
outside the zones covered by the Travelcard you might need to get an
Oyster Extension Permit before you travel. If you travel with an
Oyster extension Permit you might be liable to a Penalty fare or even
prosecution."

Could they possibly mean 'If you travel *without* an Oyster extension
Permit'? And don't you just love that 'you *might* need to get...'

Rupert Candy wrote:

Just to add fuel to the flames, Southern have provided some clear and
unambiguous guidance (!) on this page:

http://www.southernrailway.com/ticke...s/oyster-card/

"If you already have a Travelcard but want to use your Oyster card
outside the zones covered by the Travelcard you might need to get an
Oyster Extension Permit before you travel.

'Might' is correct in that context really, because the requirement for an
OEP only applies if you are extending FROM your travelcard's zones, as far
as we can make out. As an example, if you had a season that covered only
zones 1 and 2, a touch in in zone 4 to travel to zone 6, or back to zone 1,
wouldn't need an OEP.

...If you travel with an
Oyster extension Permit you might be liable to a Penalty fare or even
prosecution."

Shocking error that bit...

Paul S

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:11:04 -0000, Paul Scott wrote:

Just to add fuel to the flames, Southern have provided some clear and
unambiguous guidance (!) on this page:

http://www.southernrailway.com/ticke...s/oyster-card/

"If you already have a Travelcard but want to use your Oyster card
outside the zones covered by the Travelcard you might need to get an
Oyster Extension Permit before you travel.

'Might' is correct in that context really,

Not very useful advice though...

...If you travel with an
Oyster extension Permit you might be liable to a Penalty fare or even
prosecution."

Shocking error that bit...

But by the same logic, it's correct. For example, you could have an
OEP but travel out of the Travelcard zones.

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 01:34:46PM -0800, Rupert Candy wrote:
On Dec 1, 9:57=A0am, MIG wrote:
It may have the potential to make things convenient for everyone if
properly thought through and with the advantages and disadvantages
openly and honestly discussed and with no coercion.
Just to add fuel to the flames, Southern have provided some clear and
unambiguous guidance (!) on this page:
http://www.southernrailway.com/ticke...s/oyster-card/
"If you already have a Travelcard but want to use your Oyster card
outside the zones covered by the Travelcard you might need to get an
Oyster Extension Permit before you travel. If you travel with an
Oyster extension Permit you might be liable to a Penalty fare or even
prosecution."

Could they possibly mean 'If you travel *without* an Oyster extension
Permit'? And don't you just love that 'you *might* need to get...'

It gets better. On the ticket machine at Thornton Heath it says that
Oyster PAYG is accepted. On the poster next to the front door it says
that it isn't.

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